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I have had 3 PS2 1ST ONE LASTED 9 MONTHS HAD TO SEND IT TO SONY TO GET IT CLEANED FOR $90.00 THEN I TRADED IT IN AT GAMESTOP WENT TO BEST BUY GOT MY 2 ONE WITH A WARRANTY THIS TIME ENDED UP TRADING IT IN FOR $60.00 AT THE 360'S LAUNCH SO I COLD GET MY SON a 360 too. then I bought the small one 6 months latter with kingdom hearts 2. and now i got a PS3 too. I have had 2 gamecubes 3 xbox's and both of are 360's are launch 360 and still work fine. The PS2 is succesful because of 3 rd party and exclusive launch titles. is microsoft stealing away some of this 3 rd party support yes. will both console do good yes . whats funny is even if a console like the 360 sells 25 million and the Ps3 sells 50 million. Both will have something to offer gamers. and both will be considered successful I mean game developers said in order to break even on these next gen titles they need to sell 1/2 million copies of a game. by nexgen I mean PS3 And 360. wii games are cheaper to make so less sales probably 100000 copies would be the break even point. so if a developer puts out a multiplatform game they stand a better chance of hitting thier sales goals. exclusivity on a console is paid for by the console maker not because some developer wants to only be on that particular ystem.