Scisca said:
thismeintiel said:
@ bold
OMG, you are 100% RIGHT! That's what disappointed me about the Expendable movies. They are supposed to be a throw back to the 80's and 90's action flicks, yet use CGI FOR EVERYTHING! All the blood and bullet wounds are CG. A lot of the explosions are CG. Even a freaking dude being caught on fire is in CG. The CG motorcycle being launched at the CG helicopter in the second one looked laughable, at best. This also makes me look at the new Turtles movie and laugh. There is nothing there that couldn't be done with guys in suits, especially with all the advances in that tech we have today. It could look even better and more realistic than the 90's Turtles movie, without the fake looking CGI.
Having said that, I don't mind CG for huge creatures and things that just aren't practical with practical effects. I don't mind Godzilla in CG, for example. Though, I do agree with you that I would love to see Toho make another Godzilla using the more advanced suits we can make, now. Sadly, I think they will switch over to CG, as well.
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I absolutely agree with you. Star Wars is the best example for it. CG Chewie doesn't look anything like the old guy in a suit. It doesn't look realistic at all. The legendary Mos Eisley scene would look like crap and be totally forgetable if done using CGI. The way it was made - it became legendary. The new trilogy would have been much better, had Lucas not gone with CGI everywhere. I'm affraid Disney is gonna go the same rout, which is sad. The same goes for LotR and Hobbit. Too much CGI hurts movies. Stuff that can't be made well "old school" and would look awkward, like huge monsters, dinosaurs, etc. are ok. I don't mind Godzilla being CGI, as it looks better this way. But when possible the old school ways give much better and realistic effects.
Just compare the incredible original Jabba and the flat, plastic CGI one...
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Yea, agree with you on Star Wars and LotR. If you watch the LotR Trilogy, there is definitely some parts where it's CG heavy, but they still used a lot of sets and used costumes for the orcs. Flash forward to the Hobbit and almost everything is CG. The human-sized orcs are. The environments are. And the white orc, which could have so easily been pulled off with a big dude in a suit (and would have been in LotR), looks pretty fake most of the time.
Scisca said:
Now where exactly am I bashing America?
@Thismeintiel - you probably didn't see it, cause you are American :P I just can't stand stuff like this anymore and trust me - all my friends felt the same thing. This stuff was fun during the first Rocky or Rambo movies, but at this point they make movies unwatchable.
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I disagree here. I have never seen the dozens of scenes throughout the Godzilla movies where the Japanese military is trying to deal with Godzilla as being "the immortal-ultimate-unbeatable-bad-ass-Japanese-marines-who-save-the-world-as-usual." They are just trying to destroy the threat, as were the Americans in this film. There was really only one scene that came off as a little dudebro to me. Which is this one. But, overall, the movie definitely wasn't "Yay! America" as you put it. Maybe you're just looking for something that isn't there.
