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haxxiy said:
justinian said:
 

I can understand your frustration but the constructors champs is where the money is at and where the money is at so are your priorities.

Webber was a driver I always supported, especially in his early battles with Vettel. But in some cases bad luck - as was the case in their first year, and obvious favouritism broke him. If he couldn't beat Vettel he should at the very least be second to him over the last four years in what was obviously an overall superior car.

Outward personalities can be misleading and many would think that Webber's hardman's image would be far better coping with the arrogance and speed of Vettel compared to the smiley face, easy going Ricciardo.

However something gives me the impression he is not going to be anyone's bitch, as is now the case with Massa who has been bitching for years and seems now to have had enough of it in his "old age".

This is very true. Massa is the home pilot but I can't stand him for hell. First he bitches about team orders to keep Bottas behind, and then he flat out ignores them when it's convenient to him. Not to mention is tantrum in Australia to ban Kobayashi because he thought the poor dude misbraked.  It's no wonder we in Brazil often call him FuMassa, that is, Smoke.

Also, almost got it this weeks. Seems like I underestimated the RBR a little bit.

Massa is definitely not a Piquet, Fitipaldi, Senna or the other great Brazilian drivers of the past. I suppose this annoys many Brazilians because for many years he was the main hope for another WDC for that country. Instead he became a domestique to Shumi and Alonso. He had his chance in 2008 but never took it. It shouldn't have come down to the last race in Brazil as he had what was considered to be the best car.

Barrichello had his chance in 2009 but to be honest he never was that good.

I think many teams believe the best way to succeed is to have a "bitch" driver. Ferrari won seven on the trot and RBR four using this method. Having a driver that is significantly better than his team mate can avoid a lot of potential problems.

Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen etc, will never be anyone's "bitch". Alonso wanted Hamilton to be his but even as a brand new rookie Lewis wasn't going to do that resulting in problems within the team and Alonso leaving.

Those four drivers will never accept team orders if it doesn't benefit them and that's why their teams wouldn't even think of asking them to let anyone pass.

I also believe Hamilton, Alonso and Kimi would have done what Vettel did last year in Malaysia.

As for today, yeah, RBR is definitely not as bad as many thought. They may well be the second best team but I expected more from Williams in Bahrain without rain to spoil their preparation.