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Zucas said:
 


How strong it USED to be.  I feel there is a lot of short term memory loss when people talk about the Xbox brand.  There was NO Xbox brand outside of America before the 360.  And even in America that brand was weak at best.  Similarly, there was no Nintendo brand outside of America and Japan.  Europe was always Nintendo's weakest market even when they were facing Sega back in the old days.  In the 6th generation PS2 did 55 million in Europe, Gamecube did 4.4 million, and Xbox did 7.1 million.  In the 7th generation in Europe PS3 did 33 million, Wii did 33.7 million, and 360 did 25 million.  The brand is not a monopoly in Europe anymore.  

I won't argue that the brand of Playstation is strong in Europe.  What I will argue is that it is as strong as it used to and that it is not strong over its competition.  It could become strong this generation, but right now we can't say it is strong.  Not when it suffers such a heavy market loss as that.  

Not stong over its competition.... How about a reality check.

Last weeks WW sales, overa ll numbers home and portable hardware.

PS 275k
Nin 190
X 114k 

Better yet lets only look at console numbers only, it is what we are debating.

PS 213k
Nin 56k
X 115

PS numbers greater then its competition combined.

How bout new gen.

PS4 144k
wiiU 77k
X1 42

Once agian PS numbers greater then its competition combined.

Really want to see the stregth of the PS brand.

PS3 67k
X1 76k
WIIU 42

Not only is the nearly decade old PS3 holding its own vs the Xbox1 but its beating the Wiiu, how about that for current brand strength ?

 

Wanna talk Europe specifically.

Top 5 selling games in Europe are on PS.
11 of the top 15 are on PS.  
PS3 and PS4 COD Fifa GTA BF4 AC4 all currently chart higher then 360 XB1 versions. 

then there is this Europe only hardware.

PS4 61,285
PS3 24,053
XOne 17,844
360 12,749
WiiU 9,895
Wii 6,944

Two of the top selling consoles are PS
PS3 is out selling Wii and WiiU combined
PS3 is out selling Wii WIIu 360 X1
PS4 alone is selling double the entire Xbox brand (360 and X1)
PS3 and PS4 are out selling all Nintendo and Xbox consoles.

And all this with a supply constrained out of stock PS4

 So "not strong over its competition" in your eyes ? dont worry with Japan soon added to the count PS brand and PS4 will tower over the competition even more.  Maybe then ill be strong enough.

Is this not domminating ?