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naruball on 25 January 2014
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Pavolink said:
naruball said:

Actually numbers do lie if you use them the way you did. You're simply jumping to conclusions.

Both points you made are not proven by the numbers. All the numbers tell us is that at the moment the xb1 has a higher attach ratio. Why? It could be for a number of reasons.

It is possible that some people bought a ps4 because they had the money and wanted to have it asap even though they're mainly interested in Uncharted.

Others may have been busy playing all the free games they got with ps+ and the ftp games.

etc

Arguing that "Xbox exclusives are bigger than ps ones" based only on Killzone (which has received lower than usual reviews), Forza and Ryse is beyond silly. Had it been uncharted 3 or Gran Turismo 6 selling worse than Forza and Fable, then maybe you'd have a point. As it is, you're simply jumping to conclusions.

Both of your arguments don't hold any water at the moment. 

Firstly, GT6 is underperforming and Uncharted 3 is not a ps4 game, well neither are. Secondly, you just left out conveniently one if not the biggest fps exclusive, Halo. And thirdly, we are talking about ps4 and xbox one software sales, and as far as I know, none of the 4 games you mentioned were released on those consoles (at least not a mainline entry).

You are just speculating trying to justify. My point still stands: software numbers looks better for xbox and this is proof enough that the xbox exclusives were more interesting to consumers than ps ones, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

Both your points as phrased are wrong. The second states that based on the numbers, xbox exclusives are bigger than ps ones. That is simply not true. First of all, you should have mentioned that you are referring to ps4 and xb1. You did not. Even if you had stated that you were referring to xb1/ps4 your argument would still be wrong. Infamous and Uncharted could have sold ps4's and the users who bought them are waiting for them to be released. You call that speculation which is correct, as it is a theory. What is a fact, though, is that you cannot be sure why people bought their consoles. So, saying that xb1 exclusives are bigger is also speculation. I was careful enough not to jump to conslusions. You did that.

Again, you mention how I "conveniently" left out Halo, while you conveniently once again do not address f2p and ps+ games. How can you know which console has the higher attach rate? I mentioned GT and Uncharted as the two biggest ps ips. I intentionally and not conveniently did not mention Halo, as my point was, had ony brought their big guns and MS two of their bigger, but NOT their biggest IPs, i.e Halo and Gears, and still beat Sony, then your argument would be stronger. At the moment you're comparing one exclusive vs 2 (Forza + DR) and jump to a false conclusion.