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Arius Dion said:
DBZfan2027 said:
I really don't understand the blind support for Nintendo, especially after the Wii. So, Nintendo's success only brought about shovelware, casual party games, and an archaic online infrastructure. Yet this somehow is all excused because "haha they make more money than Sony!" Has anyone ever truly put this into perspective? Think about it: the Wii made Nintendo lots of money, and they choose to invest this on a console, whose power is only comparable to 7th gen hardware, still has outdated online support, and has one of the worst gamepads a console has ever seen. This is more than good enough for Nintendo fans? It pleases you to know that your favorite company opts to reserve its profits and doesn't even try to take some risk financially for the betterment of console gaming?

Contrast this with Sony's losses and what they took to showing everyone with PS4: a console more developer friendly, an improved UI, OS (which helps with things like browsing the PS Store), loads of power that is comparable to SOME high end PCs. So the PS4 isn't worth owning in spite of this because Sony doesn't make enough money for you? Why is this talking point used so much by Nintendo fans? Because arguing sales in units is obviously going to become a losing proposition for them. It's a sad and pathetic strawman argument. And trying to draw parallels with SEGA's financials, really? Talk about desperate here.


So much irony in this post. 

 

Because ps1/2 didn't have shovelware. And blind support, you wouldn't know anything about that obviously. 

Is that the conclusion you take from his post? Irony? Hasn't the Wii casual party games as a significant part of its catalogue? Is that irnory? Hasn't the Wii a poor online infrastructure? Would that be irony too? Haven't Nintendo profits during this 7th gen been higher than any others, even considering the entire videogaming history? Aren't WiiU's core capabilities comparable to 7th gen rather than 8th gen? Hasn't the WiiU outdated online support? I guess this is all irony. Maybe WiiU's gamepad is one of the best, if all of that was irony. Is he being ironic when saying Nintendo opts to reserve its profits and doesn't even try to take some risk financially for the betterment of console gaming?

"So much irony" that the only thing you point out is the shovelware, which is also present in PS1 and PS2. But is it about the same? I mean, a console maker can't do much about 3rd parties doing shovelware and thus shouldn't be blamed for that. But in the specific case of Wii, Nintendo has inspired them with low-budget games that sold extremely well. Wii Sports is an example, there were a lot of "me too"s that sold some hundreds of thousands or even millions. Wii Fit is another example, there were a lot of fitness games that sold some millions. All of this was shovelware. Also, 3rd parties realized that launching top quality games on the Wii was a hell of a risk whereas shovelware had a lot of potential, so they started to innovate in that field (beyond Nintendo's creations). I'm sure you can't find on PS1/PS2 shovelware that sold 39M. On Wii you can, look at Just Dance.

I'm sure none of this is new to you. You must know very well the difference between PS2 and Wii regarding shovelware.

Regarding the topics you have ignored, you denial won't change the fact that they clearly show what does Nintendo with the gamer's money in comparison to Sony.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M