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drake4 said:
SandyVGina said:
i didnt expect `1080p from nintendo, but i did from the xbox one and ps4. look PC gamers have been bragging about 1080p for years, i expected sony and microsoft to put enough power into there counsel so most games could be 1080p. it looks like Sony did, and it looks like MS got cheap and did not.

microsoft didn't go cheap though there console cost more to make then ps4, they just made horrible descisions by focusing on making a all in one entertainment device, they decided early they wanted 8 gigs of ddr3 no matter how bad it would effect the console performance,.sony was orginially gonna jusy have 2-4 gigs of fast ram, cause of how expensive it was, and there main focus was on making the best gaming console, later they decided lets just put 8 cause the price has dropped significantly by the time the console was in final planning stages.


Neither Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo will release exact manufacturing costs and they are not obligated to do so. Always take what they state with a pinch of salt, statistics are something easily manipulated especially when you don't give out any actual figures.

Yes Microsoft went cheap. They ripped out some GPU compute units so they could fit the ESRAM into the same silicon. They could easily have done 2 memory pools with 8GB of main memory and perhaps 256M/512MB of GDDR5 memory but instead they went for a low cost approach. Most of kinect processing is done by the main cpu/gpu.

There is nothing really there to justify the retail price but like any manufacturer it's in their interests to sell at the maximum price. No point selling at $400 if it still sells well at $500.

All the spec information for the Xbox One shows its very weak performance. We aren't talking wii u weak but its still disappointing. Many don't see the Xbox One price as fair for the performance on offer. Like most consoles though the real sales come when its gone through a few price reductions. I'm looking to buy at £200-250 which I think is a fair price for what is on offer. I think there is a strong chance this will be possible next year as European sales have been quite poor in mainland Europe and without a price reduction I think Microsoft will simply hand Europe to Sony on a plate, with the possible exception of the UK. However even though I'm in the UK its easy to import from mainland Europe if they are cheaper there.