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happydolphin said:
Seece said:

Mario Kart 8 and Smash are this holiday? No, is Smash even soon, isn't that late 2014 at best?

The WII made the Wii soar, the concept.

That is not the reason the WiiU is failing, such shortsightness. The masses are not interested in Nintendos gamers without the console having mass appeal, hence why no other Nintendo system did nearly as well as Playstation or Wii. Why is that so hard to understand for some people.

It's hilarious you say Wii Fit and Wii Party U are games that made the Wii soar, er in that sense so did NSMB by your logic? It did 20m+ .... Yet it failed to do anything this time around.

So much to adress here. First of all I said in the near future, I did not say this holiday. You realize that some Nintendo games sell very well even outside of the holiday season, NSMB DS was one example I know for certain.

MK8 I believe is coming out in April, that's soon. Smash should be sometime June next year, though I'm speculating. You must realize that Nintendo has accelerated its time from announcement to market since the cube days.

The reason the U failed according to you is lack of mass appeal in the hardware. Then in that case how do you explain the 3DS' floundering and then rise from ashes? No, it's not shortsighted, again it's based on patterns we've all been studying together. Nintendo's mass appeal comes from its pricepoint and its games, as well as new input controls (DS, Wii, WiiU), but that's secondary as the 3DS shows.

NSMB also did make the Wii soar, but it wasn't a launch title. Wii Sports certainly was, and that Wii series is in the same spirit as Wii Sports, so Wii Fit and Wii Party have similar sales potential at launch, NSMB was not only fatigued but doesn't appear to have that same selling power.

Again, all based on patterns. 

3Ds was never a broken concept (the 3D is a little weak but it was far more accepted than the Gamepad has/ever will be) it was considered far more overpriced than what WiiU is, and it was giving a significant price cut.

To top all of that off, it still isn't doing amazing numbers elsewhere in the world besides Japan. It was nearly dipping below 100k in the US earlier this year, at the same point in its life the DS was getting 700k a month or something ridiculous. Things will definitely pick up now with Pokemon, but that has been a franchise that has sold Nintendo handhelds since its inception. Nintendo home consoles don't have any such franchise, hence you get a 24 million selling gamecube and a drop in sales console over console continuiously (as they experienced) until the Wii.

Secondly, just like past Nintendo home consoles and handhelds. You can't base the home console sales on how well their handheld is doing. That's what history told you, not that all price cuts and games work to completely reinvigour a system.

Weak baseless excuses for why NSMB didn't sell. I would say today that franchise/game has more appeal than Wii Fit/Wii Party/ That audience has well and truly moved on. And they're certainly not picking it up for Super Mario 3D 0_o