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I don't have the time to listen to the whole thing, I have to leave soon, but I agree, it's pretty interesting. They're being honest and I like the female who is speaking, even if I don't quite see eye-to-eye with her on everything.

The third guy, however, touches on my whole problem with some of the criticism. You cannot say, "okay, no more games that are intended to appeal to guys." You can't do it, that's holding up an unfair standard for games only. The film and television industry has products made to appeal to guys and products made to appeal to girls. The book industry has products made to appeal to guy and products made to appeal to girls. When someone comes along and say that DoA shouldn't be made, it pisses me off. Fine, then, go stop romance novels from being made, or romantic comedies that objectify the male lead.

I do agree with some other points, however, like over-sexualizing when it doesn't fit the game.