Games are not art!

[GamesBond]

Slimebeast said:

kain_kusanagi said:

Slimebeast said:
There are tiny elements of art in some games but I don't consider games themselves as "art" or the idea of playing games as consumption of art.

There are a few, mostly indie, games that consider pure art. There are more that I consider artistic. Most games are like most movies. Fun, entertaining, even touching, but not art. They take artists to make and are full of art assets, but puting it all together doesn't not automaticly make games art no more than it automaticly makes movies art.

However, because games can be art I would argue that they should be given the same respect that film, literature, musics, etc. are afforded. Not every painting is art, but we consider the concept of painting to be art.

The problem is that people think the definition of art is black and white. It's all art or it all isn't art. That's a falacy. What I consider fine art someone else considered pop art. Art can be anything, but not just anything is art.

Superb post. I agree 100%.

I'm glad you both agree however you're only partly correct (which is a nice way to say you are wrong). You make the point that some people may consider something art and some would not. If you went to some secluded village would you mock there drawings on there pots because they lack depth perception or would you consider it art. Fortunately or unfortunately your opinion does get to define what art is. By definition, which is already posted, art is an expession. There can be no debate on that. However, you are entitled to your opinion as to whether or not you like the art. Art is black and white. It's all art. Some of it may be offensive, crude, and in poor taste for me but it does change the Fact that it was an expression of its creator. (Therefore art). Now you may only like high-brow art so to speak or cartoons but it's an expression. I can't stand some movies and video games (pirates, dead mans chest... I'm looking at you), but for me to go as far as remove it from the consideration of art is disrespectful to its participants, creators and the medium. You may argue the quality of art ad nausea , and in most cases I'm sure we would agree, but definition is black and white.