The PS3 is not the PS2

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staticneuron said: As far as format is concerned DVD was eventually used for games and no one complained. The DC did fine with thier GD roms and yet somehow no one had to mention whether or not DVD's would have been a benefit for devs. What is happening this generation is gamers dictacting what devs should and shouldn't do. And that they do not need so much space. And then people call sony arrogant.

I realize that games will eventually utilize space on the Blu-ray disc. Now the difference that makes in terms of development costs and third party support I can't say. But my point about the DVD vs. Blu ray was that the DVD media format was a main driving force for console sales in and of itself. Blu-ray sure hasn't had that effect yet, and with a format war and the necessity of having a high def TV to enjoy it, it seems unlikely that it will have the same effect for quite some time.

Timing and competition? Either the DC was competition or it wasn't. The sales died off after the PS2's release and Dev support waned. Does it matter this generation? Nope. The #60 and the PS3 seem to be geared for a similar position this time around. Both systems will get love by third party devs but in the end it will be fans that determine which console will have the most support.

The DC is a tricky one to peg in the console generations, but I'm going to say that it didn''t really compete as the DC really wasn't killed by the PS2 so much as it was killed by anticipation of the PS2. As for the second part, your exactly right. Like I said, I'm not saying the PS3 will fail, but that it won't have nearly the success as it's predecessor, and with the 360 getting more love, and already having a year head start, it's going to eat into the PS brand sales.

And as far as game titles are concerned the PS3 already has a pretty awesome lineup and quite a few exclusives that there are scant details on. The PS3 is not hurting for support and is going to get very compelling titles from now untill well into 2008. None of the games listed were really labled as exclusives before ( I think I have mentioned this before) and quite a few 360 supposed exclusives went multiplatform as well. That would put them on level playing ground and leave it to successful franchises to battle it out. If it was up to internal devs then sony would win that battle hands down.

I wasn't saying that those games were once PS3 exclusives. I said that they were once PS brand exclusive series. the Grand Theft Auto games were PS2's biggest sellers. And while they eventually found their way to the Xbox, their timed exclusivity was pretty big. Now the next game won't be a reason to buy a playstation like the last three were. Ditto goes for those other games I mentioned and many others. And much like the Grand Theft Auto games were timed exclusives, the same goes for many of the 360 games you speak of. Games like Fight night, Saints row and Oblivion were important 360 games. as PS3 games they'll just be considered as ports.

The previous success of the PS line has enabled its lineup to look as good as it does which means the PS3 garnered support before it hit the ground. Without even proving itself gamess that needs years of development were on thier way and here we come to today. http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html Just in case anyone is curious at the amount of titles announced for the PS3.

You're right there. There are a lot of announced PS3 games, but this level of support was based mostly on assumptions of continued brand success. And so far the PS3's sales have done nothing to suggest it will maintain that level of sales. Infact since launch, I'd say the only system to see dramatically increased support for exclusive games is the Wii. Most new announcements for the PS3 are also going to the 360. Once again, I'm not trying to say that the system will crash and burn, only that it won't be anywhere near 100 million in sales. You can agree with that can't you?