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GameAnalyser said:
JayWood2010 said:
GameAnalyser said:
JayWood2010 said:
KingofRome said:
So what happened in 2008? Did Microsoft decide to release 3 exclusives that year instead of the usual 2 or 1?


They have roughly about the same amount of exclusives and Im surprised people didnt already know that PS3 has been outselling the X360. 

If you guys dont know why PS3 gets a lot of flack it's because it isn't dominating like last gen.  X360 has won America with no problems and has gained marketshare in europe.  Things has gotten better in Japan for them but still pretty horrific. 

Now with all that said who has made the most money between PS3 and X360?  sony has shown that they lack control like they did last gen while losing a lot of money.  XBOX and Nintendo has both became big competitors so I believe this is more of a win for X360 and Wii than it is for PS3.  I still dont get why you guys want to make a fan competition out of this when on all fronts PS3 has not been near as successful as PS2.  It has lost in software, profits, and marketshare but this war beteen most consoles that is only bragging rights are not effecting MSFT or Nintendo.  They have been successful this generation regardless of what kind of fan war is being made.

The same would be said if Apple closed this big of a gap while windows sold less than the previous windows.  It isn't hard to figure out guys.

Gained marketshare in Europe - Agreed. Things gotten better in Japan? - No. It still struggles and the nextbox needs to do even better to lift the impending drag it would face in that market. The fact that PS3 has performed well across all regions where Europe has been the biggest performer and the fact that it outsold 360 every year since 2009 is also a clear indicator of who actually won. You are using sales figures, profits(confined to region) and just improved marketshare as elements of console's success. This is the reason why MS strategy never worked  in their favor outside US. And the fact that PS3 has outsold 360 in Europe and Japan ages ago is something MS needs to carry over , understand its significance to become the clear winner of next generation. Ofcourse PS3 didn't perform like PS2, but it's on par with PS1. It lost a fair amount of exclusives and marketshare from MS this generation. But it was never poised to fail like how Gamecube and original Xbox failed.

So you think a console that is still relatively new on the market going from 25m to proba around 80m consoles is a loss?  No that is a strategic win.  XBL, Kinect, XBLA, software has all been a success as well.  PS3 goes from 150m to most likely aroun 95m is a success while theyve lost a ton of money through the years?  As I said before people and Im going to include you are looking at this from a fan war rather than a business perspective.  Microsoft disrupted the console market and Sony has lost marketshare.  That cant be argued at all.  for a company to come into the console market like this and take down a console giant is all you can do.  

sit generations side by side and see who has gained and who has lost market.  Sony can no longer be considered the same dominating company they once were.

Companies and businesses care about profits which means gaining marketshare.  Anybody who loses 120 million consoles in marketshare will not be happy with those results. 120 million more consoles were sold from previous generatons to rival companies is where that number is coming from btw.

So you feel it's all just about profits for MS, no matter what consumers might be left with. This is how Nintendo learnt their lesson and still remains cautious despite being veterans in the vg industry.  And the word "fan war" to remark the comment implys where this is coming from. The comment was intended to have only a reasonable argument as to why PS3 is all but failure.


I'm not going to keep repeating myself.  To be simple instead of writing a big post I'll sum it up.  Sony has lost a lot of marketshare.  Xbox and Nintendo has gained a lot of marketshare.  Sony has lost money.  Xbox and nintendo has earned a lot of money. Fanwars do not equal success.

That about sums up everything I said......Twice.