Should we take "Christ" out Christmas?

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haxxiy said:

Marks said:
Are you kidding? The whole point of Christmas is the birth of Christ...the reason we give gifts is because the wise men gave gifts to Christ.

That's like trying to take St. Patrick out of St. Patrick's Day or St. Valentine out of Valentine's Day....what's the fucking point?

Man I'm really tired of non-Christians trying to change Christian traditions in a Christian country. You don't hear about Christians going to Israel or Saudi Arabia and demand Jewish or Muslim traditions be changed...so why in America?

Saying happy holidays is MORE THAN SUFFICIENT...we don't need to now disrespect the hell out of Christmas by taking Christ's name out of it.

What, haven't you heard? Male white christians dominated the world for twenty centuries, opressed the hell out of everyone, Sauron style, and should pay for it now. Yeah, some people believe that despite China and India dominating world trade and culture all the way to the late 19th century, and women being held in way higher regard in the west throughout most of history. I blame good old ethnocentrism, only working in reverse this time...

and what about atheists, agnostics and laics ? they also celebrate xmas and it wasnt a christian holiday to begin with ?

why should we suffer the heritage of a christian culture against which western modernity fought against and which is opposed to the greek & roman empires heritage (which define western culture more than christianity or judaism) ?

long question made short :

christian believers are in the minority in western culture and they transformed a pagan celebration into a fake date of jesus birth