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yeah i agree. the fallacy fallacy is probably one of the worst offenders here besides the strawman. I suppose it can't be helped when there is a lot of hardheadedness. Obstinancy only serves to make someone reject the opposed ideas outright, and twist or stonewall actual points that are being made. This typically results in tu cocque, ie, where the majority of our flaming comes from.

also, the middle ground, texas sharpshooter, and the anecdote.