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Umm, why are people talking about how hard Forza 3 is. It is by far the easiest racing game in the world. To all the people who say GT is easier, lets see you get all gold on all licenses and challenges. That is something that takes skill. I remember playing the challenges on GT4 for the PS2 and got all golds or whatever they were (can't remember) but the last race where you race with the mercedes on nurburgring and have to wait two minutes while the other racers get ahead and you have to catch up. It took me many hours just to finish first place on that and the feeling was awesome becaues it was so challenging (you had to pay attention to every turn 100% or you wouldn't win). You won't get that with Forza because there is ZERO challenge and I play with ABS, TCS and Stability off but with Automatic transmission.

I've put thousands of hours into both franchises and GT is overall the hardest to complete.

Edit - But just to point out that IMO this doesn't take away from the Forza franchise because it does everything so well. Its just really easy to beat, that's all.