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Rath said:
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Rath said:
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Rath said:
I don't see a problem with this at all. I mean nearly everyone agrees Palestine should eventually be a state - what is the problem in elevating their status to observer state status in the UN?


It totally ignores Israeli sovereignty over palestinian land?

What sovereignity?

They are internationally recognised as occupied territories - Israel does not have any sovereign rights to them. This is why the building of settlements is so controversial, it is essentially an annexation of land which they do not have sovereignity over.

The historical region of Palestine is internationally recognised as the state of Israel. State of Palestine is not recognosed by UN

Two things. Firstly the state of Israel has never been recognised to cover the entire region. Secondly the state of Palestine is now recognised by the UN - that is exactly what this vote was about.


WHen i look at the map of the world or an Atlas, Israeli territory pretty much includes all the Palestinian/Arab regions as well. And Palestine is nowehre near being actually recognized by UN, they aren't even a real member of anything


Out of interest which Atlas are you looking in? In any case - cartographers do not actually make political decisions.

Also while Palestine is not a full member of the UN, this is recognition of them as a state - the same status as given to the Holy See which is unambigiously a sovereign state.


I look at political maps. And come to think of it, I havnt seen the word Palestine in any world map ever. 

And Vatican is a lot more independet than Palestine could ever hope to be