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JWeinCom said:
Dodece said:
JWeinCom said:

Why should we be doing Sony any favors?  I don't want the Vita to fail or anything, but it's Sony's job to make the Vita a success, not ours.  Right now, Sony hasn't created a product or a software library that warrants a 250+ price tag, and accordingly we ask them to lower the price to reflect the value of the device. Sony's not helping me out with my personal problems, so i don't think I'm going to help them with theirs.

I think you are getting me wrong. I am not for the Vita or for Sony. I am however for reality. There are however some in this thread, or on these forums that do want the Vita to succeed, and their justifications for it doing just that. Always revolve around a price cut coming to the rescue. My point being that is isn't going to happen, and their perpetuating that story line is actually a self defeating act. I really could care less if they want to spin fairytales about their god rising from its grave, but when they are doing something so foolish as to keep tossing more dirt on that grave. Well it is so ridiculous it really warrants someone taking the time to point it out to them.

At the end of the day it isn't even about the Vita. There are a lot of people here who just root for the brand. In the same way some root for a local sports team. They don't necessarily care what happens to individual players. They just care about how it affects their team. To put it mildly a lot of them wouldn't give a flying fuck about the Vita if it didn't have Sony on the label. To them the Vita can only be a stain or a medal.


Fair enough, but what else short of a price cut can help the Vita?  Obviously games, but can Sony produce a true system seller?  What would movitvate third parties to develop expensive AAA titles for the Vita?  It's hard to really think of a Vita recovery scenario that doesn't involve.  

a) Slashing the price.

b) Paying big money for exclusives.

Either way, Sony is going to have to take a hit to right the ship.  If they truly can't do that, then I don't see the Vita bouncing back.

a) A price cut will definitely help... Sony is being too slow to make the bold changes it needs but it also loose too much money on each unit sold as is and can't really afford price cuts

b) The PS+ promotion is a great way to entice PS3 PS+ subscribers to start seeing themselves as having a game-library on PS-Vita that they are not utilizing. Might cause some hardware to move. It will finally happen next week, so again while PS3 got the big surge of PS+ value at E3, the Vita is yet to get such a surge.

c) Is Sony even marketing their games that are valuable enough to sell the hardware to the right people if they would just learn about it? I give example of game Smart As which got an 8.5/10 review from IGN but I think is more like a 10/10 game for people that jumped on board the Brain Age games for Nintendo DS. That was a system seller... yet the Smart As game gets no coverage, no promotion, no Kiosk demos, no mall demos, no showing at E3, etc.

d) The "console" experience on the go promise that became the PS-Vita messaging platform is yet to be realized, because console gaming is so much better than the games made so far on the PS-Vita. It isn't competing against the 3DS or iPhone... it is competing against the PS3 and X360 by targetting its games and marketing at that already very satisfied crowd with more games than time to play them. The same crowd that only wants free version of their PS3 game on PS-Vita with cloud save feature so they can resume on PS3 when they get back home. Why would they spend $250 for portable to just play their PS3 games on the go... especially if they had to buy 2 copies of the game to do it.

The PS-Vita marketing intended to promote how "powerful" it is has done nothing but hurt it because it targets PS3 players and the results on PSV are not as "powerful" as the PS3.