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Baron said:
HoloDust said:
bazmeistergen said:
HoloDust said:

I think that's pretty much obvious - AAA (or coming AAAA, whatever that might be) game developers want power, and lots of it for their next-gen games. And when I say power, I don't mean just for visuals, but for AI, physics and other stuff. Mikey Neumann, creative director at Gearbox, in last Bonus Round on GT talked about how he wants to see hardware PhysX enhanced visuals (PC version) of Borderlands 2 in all next-gen titles. And for that you need power. Lots of it. Something that e6760, unfortunatelly, does not have. So, combined with all other things, I'd guess major developers will be giving much more attention to 720/PS4 once they come out. I don't expect 3rd party support for Wii U to be as abysmal as with Wii, but I doubt it it will be anywhere near support for next MicroSony offerings.


The thing you are missing is the increasing cost of development and the fact that we don't know how powerful the other consoles (if they even release one) will be. People may well be surprised by what Sony and Microsoft come out with.

Actually, I don't think cost of development for next-gen will be that huge of a leap (some estimates put it around 15-20%) - most of that transition has already been done in jump from PS2/XboX/GC to current gen. And "all real-time" engines like UE4 will just make development even easier for artists than it is with current engines, so lot of savings there (very nicely explained in UE4 tech demo video).

As for power of 720/PS4....there has been some rumours lately for both of them, 720's being bit more realiable I'd say - if final specs are anywhere near what those rumours are stating we might very well end up seeing difference of some 4x in power beetween (at least) 720 and WiiU. But since I was talking about physics, I'll just post comparison of e6760 and equivalent of rumoured 720's GPU power (though only one test, SPH fluid simulation - fuild simulation is exactly the stuff you have see a lot in Borderlands 2 PC PhysX version):

http://www.clbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?config_0=12513567&config_1=11973646

10x - shocking, right? Now I don't know how this translates to other GPU physics based tasks, but if you look that RayTrace is some 12x times as powerfull....that's why I think that major developers might have problem porting easily 720/PS4 titles to WiiU once they get the hang of their power.

But 15-20% more will elevate games with the same percentage. So games will be at least 69 euro's (don't know the retail prices for games outside Europe) so that's not something to take lightly.
Also, what does the UE4 cost for dev's to use? Epic themselves will be able to create nice and shiny games which will probably be exclusive anyway but other dev's will have to fork out money for the engine. I don't know how much the UE4 engine will cost but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's not particularly cheap. The same goes for other 'Next-Gen' engines.

As for the rumored 720 GPU, could you give me a link please? Not to say your wrong. I'm Just interested.

http://www.nowgamer.com/columns/nowgamer-team-blog/1220630/xbox_720_spec_leaks_what_if_the_gpu_rumours_are_true.html

Also i might add, that the 6670, or even the rumored 7670 in the Ps3, might be 'capable' of a lot according to Ati, they don't have anywhere near the grunt to pull it off and if that GPU leak is accurate, the 720 will barely struggle to nudge 20% more powerful than the WiiU, at most.