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but to be fair the phenoms are only $50-80 (depends on which one you choose)
you wont get that performance from any intel cpu for that price range.

for an i5 you have to pay like ~$170, but you will notice the difference.
most amd users know that. but there are some delusional amd users who think it can compete against a cpu 3x expensive than their own ...

but for most things a phenom would be enough (not counting the newer amd ones since they arent that good), but it still has its limitation.