KungKras said:
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KungKras said:
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KungKras said:
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RolStoppable said:
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Adventures was 99% on foot. It's still part of the series. And all the flashy graphics in the world can't cover up a fundamentally flawed concept and bland Zelda-lite gameplay.
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You don't seem to understand the difference between a mainline game and a spinoff. Even if SFA was the worst game in the world, it would not have killed Star Fox, because people would have said that it was never a proper Star Fox game to begin with and the quality of the series would be judged on the next mainline entry. Which was the mediocre Assault, followed by the mediocre Command. These are also unsurprisingly the games with the worst sales in the series.
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Spin-offs are still part of a series and contribute to its quality. The franchise went from good to crap with Adventures, hence that's the one that killed it. It even introduced the on-foot stuff that dragged down Assault.
And I too hope that Nintendo realise their mistake with Other M; they probably will given its sales, but they might just take those to mean "fans don't want new things" instead of "fans don't want new things that ruin the entire franchise."
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I guess Mario & Sonic at the olympics series is killing the Mario franchise then. Worst platform game ever....
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Luckily for Mario he has many other great games to outweigh is bad ones, and the Olympics series hasn't made all the ones since crap.
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You're just not getting it.
There is a sharp difference between spinoff and mainline franchise. If Mario Kart started sucking, it would not kill the main platformer franchise. If Starfox Assault was good, Starfox adventures would have had no impact on the franchise.
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Except that Adventures isn't a spinoff to the degree that those games are. It's storyline links in directly with the other games, it's treated as a sequel in every way but the style of gameplay, which is something that has changed within a series before. It doesn't have the"this doesn't count" vibe. And Assault's shortcomings, namly the on foot stuff, can be traced directly to Adventures. Assault sucked because of Adventures.
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You're saying that as if gameplay isn't close to everything in a game. So what if the story ties in with the other games?
Also, there is nothing similar about the gameplay of Adventures and the on-foot missions in Assault. You could play on foot in Lylatwars as well.
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There's one very important similarity; they both suck. In Lylat Wars the on foot stuff was thankfully kept as a minor, optional aside, more an easter egg than anything else.
If not for the on-foot stuff in Adventures I doubt they would have put it in Assault.
Adventures was the first Starfox game to suck, not Assault. Assault was even a better game than Adventures, even if it was bad compared to the SNES/N64 games.
