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I can't understand why you mentioned ngw as anything near VGC,... the last few times I checked it they had about 30-60 guest users, and 1 or 2 members at any one time.

VGC has been bigger than ngw since we changed to .com [according to alexa]

In fact I [oddly] did a comparison with homestarrunner, which seems to have lost popularity over the last few years because VGC is bigger than that.