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Although I am glad this thread is going well. And to the most part pretty civil, I would like to add comments about the Crysis 2 thing.

Currently based off of the 20 or so websites that claim its the best looking console game etc etc.
It's easy to show reviews from games out before Crysis 2 released and say those games have x,y,z said in the review that makes them the best. But they were never compared to Crysis 2 because it wasnt out then. However considering Crysis 2 is compared to all those games before it and handily beat it across loads of reviews has to make people who care what reviews say is the best take notice.

As for DF, they at no time claimed KZ3 was better graphically. Where people are getting that from is beyond me.
As already pointed out in this thread DF actually claim that Crysis 2 is using effects unseen elsewhere on consoles which obviously includes KZ3. It's doing things technically no other console game before it is/was doing. You can argue that KZ3 performs at a better frequent FPS or has a higher res. But DF do mention Crysis 2's technical accomplishments were much higher than just aiming at 720p. They make it clear it has much larger environments and better effects.

This said thats why DF conclude that Crysis 2 is at the cutting edge of console visuals. Thats there words.

However you view any of the comments around the web is up to you. What I think is niether gonna change someones mind or make me right or you right.

What is a certain is the fact that there is a discussion goes to show Crysis 2 certainly has the attention of being top graphics currently.

Interestingly devs view Crysis 2 as the current cream of the crop.

4A has said they would like to beat Crysis 2 on consoles in the graphics department.

Do I think it will hold out and win this year?

No.

BF3 is looking to good imo. That gif of the window blowing out looks awesome slowed down. And to think those level of effects are capable on a 5 year old 360 for me is great news.

Carry on.