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Runa216 said:
padib said:
Runa216 said:
I just want to interject here and say you're all understanding Occam's Razor wrong. "The simplest solution is the best" is NOT Occam's razor, that's just lazy. No, the Razor is about making as few assumptions as possible.

God creating everything is simpler to grasp and to understand, but makes many grand assumptions (namely, that God exists, that God cares about us, and that God is omnipotent)

The Big Bang (or whatever other geneis theory you have) makes fewer assumptions because almost all aspects of the theory has scientific backing, so it's not about assumptions, it's about following the evidence.

Occam's Razor is a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypotheses that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

Educate yourself before looking like a tool. Wikipedia (and Google) are both right at your fingertips.

Corrected.

Assumption count = 1.

No..no no no freaking no.  Just because I only CHOSE to list three doesn't mean there are only three assumptions to make.  That, and all of those assumptions are needed.  ASSUMING god exists, he'd still have to care enough to make the world.  Simply existing would not automatically lead to him creating us.  Assuming he existed and cared enough, he'd still have to prove omnipotent to create the universe, since omnipotence means "all powerful".  to create a universe he'd need to be as powerful if not more than the entire universe. Hence all three are required to assume that God created everything. 


God does not need to care about us. For theistic religions, this is true. However, deism doesn't require God to care about us. Although there are probably different types of deism, under the more common forms, God is just required to create the universe (more of a first-cause). God's intentions, love, goodness are irrelevant to deists. In your response, you changed the assumption to caring about the world, which is different from saying he cares about us. Once again, this statement would be true for theistic conceptions of God but would hardly be necessary for a deistic conception of God.

Now, omnipotence and existence are assumptions I would make although I could see a case being made that God does not need to be omnipotent, just very very powerful.