DaBuddahN said:
Cirio said:
Proof =/= Evidence. Proof is a mathematical concept while evidence is scientific. We are AWARE that evolution occurs, and we've tested it a billion times with evidence that supports this theory. I agree that Evolution occurs, but it is still a scientific theory where one cannot claim "evolution is a proven fact". His question NOW makes sense after he changed his title, but originally he asked to simply "prove evolution", which by definition is not possible because almost all scientific theories don't prove anything.
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Im glad we agree evolution happens, but proof is NOT a purely mathematical concept. Mathematical proofing is, by definition, a strictly mathematical concept. On the other hand, proof, as in, sufficient evidence to clear any reasonable doubt is not a mathematical concept. Science uses both proofing concepts. If you're going to talk about proof, and then use math as an example, then use the correct term "mathematical proofing"; Wikipedia has a good article on it.
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Here's a thought, why don't you go to any scientist and bluntly tell him to prove evolution. Firstly, the scientist probably won't take you seriously because evolution as a scientific theory cannot be proven. Secondly, he will take you to his lab and show you his data(s) which include his EVIDENCE on the existence of evolution. The scientist will not say "I have proven evolution", rather he will show you his results that support without a doubt that evolution occurs. But when you base your judgement over the definition of a scientific theory, then you cannot say that evolution is proven BECAUSE a scientific theory doesn't attempt to PROVE. So unless you can change the definition of a scientific theory, and ultimately that of science, then maybe you can say that evolution is proven. Otherwise, evolution will remain a theory even though there isn't any evidence against it.
