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Baalzamon said:
dsage01 said:

2. The Republican's treating the poor unfairly.

The Republican's have stated before they think that the poor are lazy despite them working 40 hours a week on average. Republicans have blamed the poor for this financial crysis that they are going through. Well what will you do when your monthly expenses outpace your income? And with hardly any finacial or social assisstance just make things worse. They have stated that the poor are subsidezed by welfare. WTF they don't even qualify for public assistance. Only the people who are severly injured or disables get SOME help. Not the ones who are working there ass off earning money?

I just thought I would mention something I mentioned in a past post.  If you have a husband and wife working 40 hours per week at a McDonalds for $8 an hour, they will make combined income of $32,000 per year.  This amount of money SO easily covers the necessary expenses it isn't even funny.  Cell phones are not necessary.  Satellite television is not necessary.  Video games are not necessary.  Going out to eat (AT ALL!!!) isn't necessary (this is a big one).  Going on expensive vacations is not necessary.  Gambling is not necessary.  SMOKING is defiantly not necessary.  I'm not trying to diss smokers, but if you did get addicted to it, we shouldn't be the ones that have to help you out when you have no money.  Oh, here's another big one.  If you are making $32,000 per year, you don't need to be living in a $300,000 house, a much smaller house or apartment is perfectly fine.  Lets see here...oh yea, cars.  You don't need a brand new, $20,000 car if you are only making $32,000 a year.  Make due with something cheaper.  Oh, here's another one, internet is not necessary.  If you live in a town with a library, you can easily go to the library to do anything necessary on the internet, such as look for a better job, or anything else.

I know life wouldn't necessary be quite the same without all of that stuff, but if you can't afford it, DON'T BUY IT.

So to ask what people will do when they have their expenses outpacing their income, then they should cut some of their expenses.  If a family of 2 is indeed working full time at $8 an hour,  there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why they shouldn't be able to afford living (and yes, with being given absolutely no money from the government).

So no offense to you, but to say people working their ass off should qualify for government handouts is absolute bullcrap.  (Note that above, I'm just saying that stuff isn't ESSENTIAL...you will likely still have plenty of money left over after the necessary things that you will be able to buy some of those things if you so wish, as well as put some money into the bank to save for the future).

Also, I hope you realize that the people working full time aren't the ones the Republicans are calling lazy.  The ones the Republicans are calling lazy are the ones that live on government handouts year after year, yet still don't go and get a fricking job like everybody else.

I just thought I would mention.  A lot of the less wealthy people that are whining probably have a bunch of those things in their life (not necessarily smoking, that is just there for those that do have it in their life).  Hell, a cell phone and satellite television alone are probably near $200 a month depending on your plan.  Going out to eat once a week at $25 each time (for 2 people) is another $100 a month.  Smoking 4 packs (between 2 people) of cigarettes per week (I'm not totally sure what a pack costs...$5?) is another $80 per month.  Internet is another $20-$50 a month depending on what kind of plan you have.  This is almost $400 a month being saved, and it doesn't even include the big things such as vacations, a house payment that is way too big, and a car payment that is way too big.

No offense to anybody here, but I REALLY don't feel sorry for anybody who has 2 people working full time in a house, but still can't make it in regards to money.

http://www.livingwage.geog.psu.edu/

Worth looking at, in quite a few places two people earning $8 an hour in full time jobs does not meet living expenses. As soon as those two people have a kid it becomes almost all places that you don't meet living expenses.