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papflesje on 05 August 2011
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Joelcool7 said:
MrBubbles said:

universal declaration of human rights

 

 

what do i win...?


Nothing because even the Universal Declaration of rights does not say Marriage is a right for all citizens. It specifically says in Article 16.

Article 16.

  • (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
  • (2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
  • (3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Their you have it, yet again nowhere in the world do I know of a declration of human rights etc...etc.. that says marriage is a right of all citizens. Infact since most of the world signed the Universal Declaration of Rights I would say this just proves it. Though I guess this shows that marriage is the right of every man and women to one another.

Good try Mr.Bubbles

Do people suggest that we need to alter the Universal Declaration of human rights as well as all of our individual countries bills and laws so that we may force change on the definition of marriage on a global scale? If so that is sort of scary our countries all made these agreements and signed these things into law and respect each others religious institutions.

Also note that the declaration specifically says "and to found a family" a gay couple cannot found a family biologically neither can a beast couple or an object couple. Clearly this right only applies to males and females it says so specifically!


Nothing in that text states that it only applies to a union of a man and a woman, which means it can also be used to confirm gay marriage (I'll agree that probably wasn't its original purpose, but it does fit now).

Family on the other hand doesn't necessarily dictate children. Aside from that, with the possibility of adoption, that is also eliminated. I'd like to see you say "you're not a family" to a man and woman who just can't have children. In essence: they biologically CAN'T found a family either (according to your definition).