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Kasz216 on 30 June 2011
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sapphi_snake said:
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That first article looks like propaganda itself. It was even written by a right-winger from Poland. His argument regarding people giving more to the poor now is quite nonsensical. IT's almost like comparing apples to oranges.

Actually, libertarianism advocates social help from the people.  Donating, giving time to volunteer, etc...   The concept is the poor get help more directly instead of through a middle channel (government) so that service is much more efficicent and personal.   It also provides a better economy in that there would be fewer poor to begin with and helps guide those that are poor but are capable of taking care of themselves to do so instead of relying on an entity to do that for you.

Other than t being more "personal", I really don't see any benefit (and honestly, this benefit is more to satisfy a selfish need of the people who volunteer, rather than help those in need). I don't see how private charaties in their current form do any of the underlined.

The problem you are seeing is government itself.  The private sector can never fully service the market if the government is offering much the same services.  In fact, the government corners the market in some facets making it extremely difficult for the private sector to offer services at all.  Not to forget the red tape involved.  The government gets in the way to the point that for many people they feel it's not worth the BS.

But the real kicker is that the government at times of emergency will actually ban non-government aide and support.  I recall during Hurricane Katrina that FEMA forced dozens of full sized 53' trucks to turn around and dozens already there to leave.  They were actualy from Wal-mart, full of food and supplies and were there long before FEMA showed up.  The Department of Homeland Security also prevented the American Red Cross from supplying food.

Why did the Government do this exactly?

Bueracratic Red Tape... they turned awaya  TON of support.  Technically once Fema gets there, if you offer any help outside of them, your committing a crime I believe. 

From Wiki

 

"FEMA was accused of deliberately slowing things down, in an effort to ensure that all assistance and relief workers were coordinated properly. For example, Michael D. Brown, the head of FEMA, on August 29, urged all fire and emergency services departments not to respond to counties and states affected by Hurricane Katrina without being requested and lawfully dispatched by state and local authorities under mutual aid agreements and the Emergency Management Assistance Compact.[27]

FEMA also interfered in the Astor Hotel's' plans to hire 10 buses to carry approximately 500 guests to higher ground. Federal officials commandeered the buses, and told the guests to join thousands of other evacuees at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center.[28] In other instances of FEMA asserting its authority to only ultimately make things worse, FEMA officials turned away three Wal-Mart trailer trucks loaded with water, prevented the Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on Saturday they cut the Jefferson Parish emergency communications line, leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect it from FEMA.[29] The Wal-Mart delivery had actually been turned away a week earlier, on Sunday, August 28, before the hurricane struck. A caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers was reported in New Orleans by September 1.[30] Additionally, more than 50 civilian aircraft responding to separate requests for evacuations from hospitals and other agencies swarmed to the area a day after Katrina hit, but FEMA blocked their efforts. Aircraft operators complained that FEMA waved off a number of evacuation attempts, saying the rescuers were not authorized. "Many planes and helicopters simply sat idle," said Thomas Judge, president of the Assn. of Air Medical Services.[31]"  "

That's not even all of it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina#Federal_Emergency_Management_Agency

As for Obama... after The BP spill they banned  a bunch off the oil skimming boats that were available and could of removed oil from the water because the boats didn't remove ENOUGH Oil.   It didn't matter that it would of removed more oil faster and lessened the enviromental harm.  Because they didn't remove enough oil they would techinically breaking the law because the water they would be putting back in the ocean would of broke the law because by putting the water back in.... they would be guilty of "polluting" according to EPA regulations.

Rescue boats too were a problem.

http://bpoilspillcomp.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/boats-created-to-help-gulf-wildlife-turned-away-find-out-why/