9/11 was a conspiracy not a conspiracy theory

[Porcupine_I]

sethnintendo said:

ArnoldRimmer said:

Porcupine_I said:
I don't know why conspiracy theories always have to be so complicated!

if the government was involved in ANY way, i would picture it like this:

"Mister President we have information about a planned Terrorist attack on the United States"

"Terrorist attack? Bombs huh? Well, i was looking for a excuse to wage war anyway, we stand down and let them do their thing and see what happens"

*WTC goes down*

WTF i didn't expect THAT!

That's actually pretty close to what I believe happened.

I don't think the US administration actually planned or carried out the attacks. But the list of oddities surrounding 9/11 is indeed just endless. Sure, as with every conspiracy theory, there is a somewhat plausible alternative explanation for everything. But the oddities are so numerous that I just can't believe the official version is really 100% true. The whole 9/11 commission for example appears like it was never actually supposed to reveal the truth: They got very few money, were not even allowed to interview the terrorist suspects, and Rumsfeld even warned them not to dig too deep. And every single sentence that went into the commission report had to be approved by ALL members of that commission, so "control" over a single member of the commission would have been enough to remove just any unwanted sentence from the report. (That's for example why there is not a single word about WTC 7 in the report)

I really think the US administration did not tell us the full truth. Personally I think high people in the US administration knew about the attacks, but decided to simply let it happen as it seemed such a great opportunity to convince the public for a looong stay in the middle east. Maybe they even decided to clear some small obstacles that might have ruined the terroris attacks - like sending the NORAD planes far away on that day, even though they had been warned about upcoming airplane attacks by multiple credible sources only weeks ago.

I am pretty much in the same boat as you guys.  While I think there was some involvement; I am not sure how much.  The government could have simply known it was about to happen and let it happen (aka Pearl Harbor).   The USA has been driven into many wars under false pretenses.  Vietnam War, 2nd Iraq War, Spanish-American War are all wars started because of misinformation/ false attacks.  Just going by history it doesn't prove too good of a track record for the USA.  USA citizens have been lied to many times to justify going to war, yet the public keeps falling for it.  It doesn't help much now that the media is pretty much in bed with the Pentagon.  They drool over whatever information the Pentagon gives them without second guessing.  The drum beat for the 2nd Iraq War was insane.  It was obvious the USA government was going to go to war no matter what and the media was right behind him.  Once the war started you had famous "reporters" on Fox News pretty much saying it is time to shut up,you are unpatriotic, etc.. if you are second guessing the war.  When in actuality they were the most patriotic people for wanting to make sure that the war was right to send USA troops there.

let me just state for the record, that our boats are not even in sight of each other.