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this is a crazy thread, the Sony fans are going to say, "no, Sony makes their own things too" Which is true. NInty fans are gonna say, "yeah, Sony copies,", but it will be like pulling teeth to get them to admit they do improve on some ideas. To be fair, there is a wireless nunchuck not made by Ninty for Wii and the Move nav controller has no motion and the nunchuck does so...