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Gnizmo said:
NJ5 said:

I don't think there's any trickery, those people who ran a DDOS client (which AFAIK does not install itself permanently btw) were doing so knowing exactly what it does.

Those DDOS groups are not a real organization either, they're temporary in nature. Anyone can join or leave at any time without informing anyone else.


No one with half a brain should ever instal a slave program on their computer. Their has to be either trickery, or brain damage involved. No matter how seemingly innocent the variation of the program might be. It can cause all kinds of problems for both your system, and legally should a company decide to piss away millions trying to prosecute any of those involved. Of course the individuals would get a slap on the wrist at best, but the criminal liability still remains.

You are also playing semantics games here. Is my job not a real organization? I can leave at anytime without informing anyone else. No problems really. What about campus Anime/Debate/Port/Whatever clubs? Come and go as you please with no questions asked. Just because an organization uses cells, and has a free form membership does not make it any less real. They absolutely are real. You might not want to attach the disconnected cells actions together, but anyone joining the cells wants that association. Legally they cannot shar responsibility, but technically they are responsible for everything that came before once they assume the name by choice.

What makes you think Anonymous isn't merely a label people wear and do things behind in order to accomplish their own person ends, and sometimes find others joining in.  As a label, no one is sure who is using it or not.  My understanding is this is as close of a description to what Anonymous is than anything else.  And it is tough to then say there is an organization that exists.  Conversely though, there are things done under the label, so someone out there is wearing it so you can't fully say it doesn't exist either.  Usually organizations have identified members, and organization structure, and leadership used to maintain its identity and purpose.  Where is any of this in Anonymous?

What do you make of this?