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Icyedge said:
fordy said:
Icyedge said:
fordy said:
Icyedge said:
fordy said:
Icyedge said:
 


My reason wasnt to solely control hackers who invade others property. If it were just that, it wouldnt be that much of a deal. Heres what I said "I know its not just related to this issue but we need to globally enforce the internet, fast. Its becoming more and more disconnect to what we accept and defend in our society."

Luckily, its part of our freedom to be able to go against the freedom of speech of someone else in our judicial system.

You mean protests aren't what you accept and defend in society? Things that disrupt corporate workings so they actually pay attention? Wow, where do you live, again?

Surely, by accept I mean legal, and by defend I mean societal values and jurisprudence. Im all for protestation, as long as the protestant doesnt do anything illegal. As far as I know, manifestation and protestation are permitted in most developed countries, personally im in Canada.

Distributed Denial of Service is the equivalent of blocking the shop entrance of a store, and that's if the website they're DDOSing is a shop or not.

Once again:

"I know its not just related to this issue...".

"My reason wasnt to solely control hackers who invade others property. If it were just that, it wouldnt be that much of a deal."

Even then, I'd be inclined to be persuaded based on the circumstances. Why? Because I believe that corporations should be made to be transparent along with government. For instance, if a hacker made their way into BP's network, and found information relating to deliberate negligence towards maintenance in the gulf that led to the large spill, and distributed it all over the internet, how would you rule on that?

Giving the right to anyone and/or the police to look into what we define as private on the basis we might find something illegal is hard to defend. What is private isnt legally accessible without a subpoena and it should remain that way. Now, if you ask me if companies and governments should have less privacy, my answer is yes. I think we should work toward that way. For examples, laws like the "Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act" we have in Canada and getting rid of the switzerland bank privacy policy are both good things that was done toward this way.

The main issue is that a lot of cases that require subpoena need some kind of warrant, and a warrant cannot be obtained unless there is sufficient evidence that illegal activity might be happening. In the cases of major corporatism (Big oil, Big banking etc.) there is a hidden wealth distribution to ensure that they are always on the law's good side. How else could big banks almost destroy the world economy and get away with no arrests, while police are kicking down doors and seizing computer equipment of people who copy a few songs, in the interest of organisations such as the RIAA? Which is the bigger crime here, exactly?

I can see the dangers of rummaging through private areas in a corporate network, especially if the hackers are only in it for personal gain. It's the usual issue of security vs transparency. I don't know the ultimate answer to corporate transparency, but I still like to see the occasional corporate leak, where the public gets to hand down the verdict. Gives them the feeling that they may have to atone for their actions if it ever got leaked.

I'd love to see leaks on the workings of the American banks. Let the people decide which banks will fail, too big to or not.