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hikaruchan said:

Kojima Hideo san also did Snacher and Policenauts which are Adventure Games that are Cutscene Heavy but Policenauts did not make it out of Japan, also he did Zone of the Enders and Zone of The Enders 2.

and By The Way MGS4 Sold better then MGS3 which had the lowest sales for the series.

any way Back on topic yes JRPG a niche genre and when I say JRPG I mean every RPG from Japan not just Turn Based RPGs. but you have to remember that most JRPGs get little to no Marketing exposure in Europe which doesn't help maters regarding there niche status.

also see my other post for more.  

Yeah my point was those games arnt successful in Europe, or even in Japan for that matter.

i was also reffering to the sales of MGS3 subsistance as well, but vgchartz dosent have tracking for that title in Europe. but the sales have regressed since the 2nd game, its a well know series, i expect the same fans are buying it. that was my point - its not necessarily bringing more people, its built on the name.

yeah i remember you mentioned this before about marketing. i remember Star Ocean 4 got a pretty good marketing campagain here in Europe thanks to being a Mircosoft exclusive. its not just necessarily marketing. people know what JRPGs are they just dont enough about to be interested. a lot of SE RPGs were 360 exclusives as well - that type of exposure didnt help them much it seems.

so JRPGs have been getting a high priority this gen, Microsoft's 360 has helped a lot, but still there no mass market appeal in Europe. but WRPGs are doing things a little better, and i think its because those games are more accessible. but their not breakout successes either.