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ismael said:
BenKenobi88 said:
Well I meant you should probably use that data instead of just the firearm count...if you're going to put out data. I'm still wondering where this is going. Yeah, the culture here sucks and there's lots of stupid people killing others, but I'm not convinced that guns are the problem, and whether or not making them illegal would help either.

I only want you to think about the posible link between fire arms and crimes.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html#table2_9 (FBI data)

14,121 murders in 2004 - 9,326 were with firearms = 4795 murders without firearms. think about it

@Andir

i think you have named the problem, the responsability, so you have to be sure who you are selling the firearm to, because you can be selling a gun to a murderer.


 Cause guns are avaliable.  Otherwise those 9,326 murders would of just been committed by knives or crossbows.  People don't just see a gun and go.  "Hey, why don't i murder someone today."