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Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
rf40928 said:
Carl2291 said:

lol, somebody obviously isn't happy that Sony are both lowering the gap AND profiting at the same time

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Great news for Sony Lets hope they keep it up!

Well i beleive they did lower the gap somewhat thanks to the slimline ps3.. but things are going to change again with the new XB360.

I only wanted him to show me a REAL financial page in which he claimed both companies were in the red.. even concerning just the console division.  It doenst matter how many PS3's sony sells if they are still losing money financially.

Without proof, anything I post you post or boobihead post is just fanboy epinion and everyone here knows that.

Proof has been posted that...

a) Sony have made a profit this Quarter.
b) The gap is lower now, than it's ever been before.

As for the "change again"... We don't know if that will happen. We have no idea what Sony will do to counter it, and we have no idea if MS have anything else planned. We don't know if Move will take off, we don't know if Kinect will. It's pointless even trying to say something WILL happen now. We just have no idea. It's a guessing game. What we CAN say though, is that right now... The gap is lower than it's ever been before.


So you dont use VGC numbers anymore?  just shipped (of which the two compnaies have different definitions)

ok.. just checking.

The gap that matters is not smaller than it has ever been and is indeed growing, it is now more than it was when the PS3 launched.

Thats what VGC tracks, is about and promotes itself upon.  That is what I support as the most meaningful measure there is.  It is also in line with Famitsu, GFk and NPD which are the other agencies that track sales to consumers homes.

Does anyone think this is incorrect?

I've always said that the gap the companies will use as a measure of "sales" is the shipped number. That's why both MS and Sony say they have "sold" so many units. You think MS or Sony will come to VGC to say if they have outsold one or the other?

I do still use VGC numbers, but when the thread is about the shipments... Then we can use the shipments.

It's not incorrect at all, but it's not what the thread is about. If the thread was about VGC numbers, then of course... The gap wouldn't be the smallest it's been as the 360 has dominated for the past few week...

I agree, VGChartz if you think about it, in a sense is almost like a royalty to the gaming community. It provides itself as being a useful tool to try and determine actual "sales" the best you can, but still not an "Official" tool none the less.

And just like you said, MS/Sony won't be reporting VGChartz numbers to determine who is beating who anytime soon.

So to put it simply, determining who is beating who in the mighty Console war, we as a community may use VGChartz, but to the big three, as well as the masses in whole, this is determined by shipped.