irstupid said:
leatherhat said:
irstupid said:
Hynad said:
irstupid said:
Hynad said:
irstupid said:
and we are not solely arguing sales, we are arguing that personal tastes don't also correlate to quality
just because you don't like Barbies Pony Fun Ride doesn't mean it can't be a quality game.
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You can argue that all you want. But would you argue that Uncharted 2, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 or God of War 3 have reached a really high ground quality wise (in their own respective game genres), regardless of your personal bias for Nintendo?
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no, god of war 3 seemed the same as its predicessors, uncharted is alike a mix of many old games (prince of persia, tomb raider, assassins creed, indiana jones), killzone 2 is a shitty fps. I will say lbp is a neat creative game on the console, but the others i dn't see anything special at all in them besides visuals.
visuals are 1 small piece of a bigger puzzle in what makes a game a great quality fun game.
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So, apllying some of your own criterias, Zelda, Super Mario seires and especially Mario Kart are not quality titles since no matter how fun they are, they're still more of the same. ¬_¬
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no i was talking individual games. what makes uncharted 2 so much better than uncharted 1? what makes god of war 3 better than its predicessors? If god of war 1 & 2 weren't the top dogs, genre defining hack and slash games before, why is god of war 3 now the top dog when it is the same as those? When Killzone 1 sucked ass and come killzone 2 which has much worse controls than most other fps out on market how come it is top dog?
i'm not saying these games aren't good, i'm just curious what made them top dog NOW. What did they add in these sequals that made them go from Zero to Hero. (figure of speech, they weren't zero's before)
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Uncharted added depth and fluidity to the gameplay, as well as a pretty cool online mode. It also really immersed you in that "indiana Jones movie" feel that the first one went for but fell a bit short.
Killzone sucked, 2 was good. A lot of that can be chalked up to sony buying guerilla and guerilla getting more experience than when they made killzone, which was their first game. In the first killzone, you couldn't even jump for instance. And the KZ2 controls are great, to me its the closest a console game has gotten to giving the feel of PC and mouse.
I don't know what you're saying about God of war. Its been top dog of hack and slash since the first one. Only DMC and NG compared and they weren't better, just more difficult. Don't get me wrong, I love all 3, but GoW was definitely the best reviewed and most beloved of the bunch.
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well i did kind of figure god of war was top dog before, but people have been putting god of war 3 on a pedistool on top of the pedistool and i was wondering what so revolutionary it did to set itself insanely far ahead of its predicessors.
the post follwing yours though summed up what i assumed perfectly though, graphics.
well killzone 2 you might be in minority on controls, all i've heard and the little i tried it is almost feeling like we went back a step on contorl for that. and have you played shooters with a pointer yet? or wii should say, soon to be wand as well, or move i mean.
already answered uncharted earlier, wasn't my type of game. first one was so boringly easy puzzles in a linear fashion, but the kicker was i hate 3rd person shooters. so maybe you thought it was amazing but i prefer say assassins creed over uncharted and i would almost classify them in same genre. though actually maybe more prince of persia since that is also linear.
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