irstupid said:
Hynad said:
irstupid said:
Hynad said:
irstupid said:
and we are not solely arguing sales, we are arguing that personal tastes don't also correlate to quality
just because you don't like Barbies Pony Fun Ride doesn't mean it can't be a quality game.
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You can argue that all you want. But would you argue that Uncharted 2, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 or God of War 3 have reached a really high ground quality wise (in their own respective game genres), regardless of your personal bias for Nintendo?
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no, god of war 3 seemed the same as its predicessors, uncharted is alike a mix of many old games (prince of persia, tomb raider, assassins creed, indiana jones), killzone 2 is a shitty fps. I will say lbp is a neat creative game on the console, but the others i dn't see anything special at all in them besides visuals.
visuals are 1 small piece of a bigger puzzle in what makes a game a great quality fun game.
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So, apllying some of your own criterias, Zelda, Super Mario seires and especially Mario Kart are not quality titles since no matter how fun they are, they're still more of the same. ¬_¬
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no i was talking individual games. what makes uncharted 2 so much better than uncharted 1? what makes god of war 3 better than its predicessors? If god of war 1 & 2 weren't the top dogs, genre defining hack and slash games before, why is god of war 3 now that? When Killzone 1 sucked ass and come killzone 2 is has much worse controls than most other fps out on market how come it is top dog?
i'm not saying these games aren't good, i'm just curious what made them top dog NOW
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UC2 is better than UC1 in many ways, the graphics, the flow of the story, the game mechanics, the pacing, the beautiful backgrounds, the non-waxed look that made the first one look like a cartoon and more of an eye pleasing joyride that's not in shades of gray like so many games this gen.
God of War3 however, not really a better game, but better presentation through hardware power, and they didn't even max the efficiency of that engine yet, but imo not a better game, the same as the old ones at most, and very anti-climatic at the end which ruined the awesome start to second half mid way, maybe it was time constraint, maybe they ran out of resources and had to get the game out, but it could have been better.
KZ3, FPS on consoles, yawnnn.... imo anyways.
