mrstickball said:
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luisgvm said:
wow so many haters here!!. well you know what they say. when someone reach an amazing success the envy comes. lady gaga have this incredible success because of something simple. her music is amazing. and therefore a lot of people wants to hear it. lady gaga does things that has been done before????. oh please. the one who said that havent seen all the videos of her. i mean really????. something like bad romance or telephone have been done before???. mmm...
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If it was envy that made people dislike her then don't you think they'd dislike all successful musicians? I always find it hard to fathom how people can't understand that some people simply don't like her music.
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What I find pathetic is how people generally develope an expectation just because X artist is popular, out of the blue 90% of the posters here around a year ago said "She can't sing, She's manufactured, She doesn't write music" because she is a pop artist..
You don't realize it because you don't follow pop music as hard as I do.. Before lady gaga, you were right to categorize all pop musicans as manufactured/not being able to sing/not writing there music. She has made the entire pop industry work 10 times harder than they used to. They have all stepped up there game to keep up with this women. You have majore fucking bands and artists like DAUGHTRY, PARAMOORE, 30 SECOUNDS TO MARS, GREEN DAY, and more pay tribute to this women, it's not that I like her, it's the fact she has clearly had impact on music. I'm not even joking here, you guys may not even notice it because you guys don't care, but I honestly have noticed, before her DANCE/TECHNO/POP music did not exist on mainstream radio, all of a sudden christina aguilera changes her entire fucking look and sound, a year after lady gaga's "take over" year. Usher is doing techno, T Pain is doing techno, DR DRE is doing techno, AKON himself has said she has flipped a switch and changed things.
If oyu listen to mainstream music, you can't deny her appearence has caused a huge shift.. and there is a reason, she has fucking talent.
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Leo-J. I'm not here to talk about Lady Gaga. Whatever.
But this whole paragraph you just typed? I have never heard somebody sound so confident of their knowledge of music while actually being so massively ignorant. I'm not trying to bash you, but you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm an English/Music major. I've taken tons of music history, theory, etc classes. I read several music magaxines a month. Go to pitchfork and a few other websites every day. Listen to music reaching back decades and decades.
And I still don't think I know that much compared to some people. I try to be humble and admit that there are people who know far, far more than me, simply because they've been around longer and seen more.
This is why people get annoyed with your gushing love for Gaga. Your proclaim her to be all the things that she really isn't, and it's mainly because you're viewing her through the extremely limited scope of a teenaged boy. Grow up, gain some perspective, learn more music history, then we'll see how innovative and groundbreaking you think Lady Gaga is.
She's a lot of things. A lot of good things. But innovative and groundbreaking are certainly not among them. Nor did she bring dance/"techno" mainstream (not techno by the way, but whatever). I mean, hell. Kanye had 808 and Heartbreaks, a pure-electro album, out before Gaga. And that's just one of tons of examples.
She's a pop star. Pop stars are by definition cyclical: there's nothing about her that hasn't been done before, and better. She's a regurgitated amalgam of other genres and past trends.
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Hurrah for you. You win one internets, sir.
Pop princesses, no matter how goofy, are a dime a dozen. Pop music is exactly that - popular. It does not mean that its indicative of quality at all. It more has to do with hype, marketing, and marketability of a person as opposed to any modicum of talent. Don't get me wrong - GaGa has more talen than a lot of females have had in the past 10 years of pop music. But to compare her with the greats of the industry, merely based on album sales (or YouTube hits) is beyond absurd.
The fact is that GaGa will not have a prolonged impact on the music industry. 30 years from now, she will be known more for her whorish and strange dress than her music ability. That is the kind of scope you have to have when it comes to the popularity and ability of a person, because albums can be very tempremental things. Heck, Fame Monster is already in the shadows of the first album when it comes to sales.
Having said that, there are a few men and women that can transcend the popular music genre into something else. The last person that really did that, I believe, just died last year. His name was Michael Jackson. He had the combined talents of every popular music artist of this entire decade combined. GaGa can play the keyboards and sing okay. Jackson composed almost every instrument on Thriller, and in the case of Beat It, played the drums.
I wonder if Leo-J has ever listened to Dream Theater.
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