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vaio said:
Mazty said:

Did you purposely ignore my main point? My main point was that the wii audience is not hardcore gamers and therefore not a sustainable one if Nintendo realise another wii-like console. People argued the wii is good for gamers. I then said the wii is not good due to the pad latency, which unfortunaly I can't get any figures for so a unsubstainited point this moment in time, and that the wii has no genre defying games at all.

You have claimed the wii is for gamers and has genre defying and intuative development over the PS3 and 360. I asked you how. You have yet to answer. SO either answer or don't bother at all as you seem to be trying to avoid telling me how the wii is for hardcore gamers considering the pad is generally worse for many genres, whilst none of the games have made any  impact on the hardcore gaming industry.

I have ansewered this with an example with fps games but you just ignored it, you still havent proven how the Wiimote is generally worse then a normal controller. So you can start with stop ignoring my answer and prove how its worse.

So either back up your claims and tell me how the wii is for serious gamers, or my original point stands that the wii is not, and therefore nintendo will have to do something very smart to entice the casual gamer to buy their next console as that gamer is not bothered about hardware or game quality.

I am too tired to go back and see the whole argument so why dont you post a quote of my claims I havent answered and I will answer them for you if I still havent as far as I know I have and you just ignored it.

 

While you are at it show me a relevant survey that proves your claim that most wii´s are collecting dust.

"Wii owners do care about graphics but not at the expense of gameplay" & "whats more important is gameplay innovations and games wich is why Wii is winninig"

I have shown how the wiimote and poor hardware of the wii makes gameplay worse as the AI cannot be nearly as advanced as on the 360 or PS3, and the wiimote gives less control than a pad due to turning (pointer going off screen), less buttons etc. Also in most games graphics are key to making the game more immersive and believable such as any simulation game (sports, racing etc), fps draw distance, RTS' etc.

Plus what gameplay innovations have wii games had on game genres other than "waggle the pad to move up" etc?

Stop digressing and answer your claims from many pages back.