Mazty said:
vaio said:
Mazty said:
1) Stupid point - the mouse and keyboard are thumbless
2) For on-rail shooters, so again, stupid to mention as light guns have been doing the same thing for decades.
3) Again, that is something lightguns have been doing
4)You've said the same thing twice as higher killer rate is due to higher accuracy and aim controll, so congrats for pointing out how the wiimote is effectively a light gun.
5) And what if you want to, I don't know, side step? The wii mote is too basic to be implemented in an effective shooter such as Halo as the control over your character is too little, something which could cause an issue for Move as well
6)How has it been proven a lie??!?! The article you posted shows that there IS A LATENCY PROBLEM, but it seems to be to do with the hardware of the wii rather than the remote. For **** sake read the last line of that article.
So please tell me how the wii has been genre defining. All you have done is shown how the wiimote can be used as a light gun, and I know after playing House of the Dead 3 on the wii yesterday. It sounds like you haven't played an FPS since Doom.
Clearly you've never played a game outside of the Nintendo franchise for years, so your view is blinkered. Please give me a game from the wii which has redefined a genre, or even created a new one (Gears of War, Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2 etc).
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You clearly have reading dissabilities.
First we were talking about consoles here not pc so your mouse and keyboard comments is another lame attempt at mocing goalposts, nice try though.
Those examples were for FPS games not railshooters but way to go to try to move the goalposts again, nice try though.
The last line clearly says the problem is in his other program not the Wii, another example of you not being able to read
The latency of move is 22ms and goes all the way up to 133ms for the move but somehove for the wii it will go from 10ms all the way up to 180ms? yeah right nice try.
Earlier in this thread when i pointed out that early tests of the move shows it has more lag then the wii controller you your self (and I) pointed out that it was a tech demo. So how does the wii controller with 180ms show less lag then the move techdemo with 133ms?
The only console i dont have is the PS3 i had xbox since first week it was released.
When you are real gamer and care about real improvments get back to me.
Good bye and nice tries. please try again this is fun to see you fail.
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PC doesn't count why? Some arbitrary barrier made by you to seperate gaming on PC to consoles why? Either way point still stands that the wiimote is nothing new as it is just a light gun and still less effective than a mouse. I know those examples were for FPS's - what's your point? My point's still remain that you have very limited control over your character movement and it's nothing a light gun hasn't done before. The wiimote may be better for aiming, but good luck trying to have 360 degrees control over your character, or strafing, something that became standard with the PS2.
My point also remains that the latency of the wiimote is due to the hardware of the wii. It's known that Guitar Hero is difficult to play on the wii due to latency issues, or you ignorant to this well known fact? Also the fact you are clearly ignorant of the hardware differences between the wii and PS3 shows you know nothing about hardware, how it works, and the fact that the wii latency could very easily have such a large increase considering it's hardware seems to be about 15 years old.
You said Move has more lag than the wii. What figures are you using for the wii latency? Or just pressuming a figure? The fact neither of us have a figure for latency yet you are still harping on about it isn't too bright is it?
Nice to see your last two paragraphs are BS.
So after you've avoided it, please tell me a genre defying game on the wii? Y'know, one like Uncharted 2, Gears of War, Heavy Rain, Resistance 2, MGS4, Mass Effects etc etc. All I can think of is Mario Sunshine. That's it.
Please enlighten me to the "gameplay innovations" and as "Wii owners do care about graphics but not at the expense of gameplay" please tell me of the gameplay improvement on the wii and sacrifies made by playing on the PS3 or 360.
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