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my guess is that GT5 will outsell forza 3, but out selling doesn't always equal to the better game, it just means its more popular just like your popular kids at school could probably sell more hot cakes than non popular kids selling the same hot cakes so i think the review are going to compare the two in terms of game play and they'll decide if gt5 has better game play, obviously i think gt5 will look better because i think the game engine it uses is a better but because forza three has livery and auction i like to see how gt5 will contend with that feature which makes forza 3 stand out,