Crash Team Racing or Mario Kart 64?

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d21lewis said:

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NYANKS said:

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HAY GUYS WHICH IS DA BETTA GAME GREAT GIANA SISTERS OR MARIO BROS??? TIA!!!11~~ ;*

Joke thread? There is no "kart racing" genre. There's Mario Kart and then there's ripoffs of Mario Kart.

Was CTR a good game? Yup. But it could be better than the best Mario Kart game and it will still never be anything more than a ripoff. A Fauxlex watch, a Soni tv, Levy jeans, Nicke shoes, a Polystation, a Vii. Just the Sonic and Sega All Star Racing of 2 generations ago.

Hey man, theres no shame in progress. Yes Nintendo might have made the first kart game ever (not even sure that's true), but for that brief moment Sony made it better. P.S. I love how this thread refuses to die. Awesome.

Progress would be making your own game, not ripping off someone else's ideas.  We're not talking about a genre like FPS or RTS. We're not even talking about a subgenre, we're talking about a specific game that is popular enough to warrant 3-4 ripoff games a generation.

What the heck, man?  Would you want to live in a world where Tetris is the only puzzle game, SSX was the only snowboarding game, and Mario was the only platforming game?  Just because Mario Kart did "Kart Racing" good, that doesn't mean that nobody else should take a stab at the genre (and it IS a genre).  Heck, some people who owned a PS1 didn't own an N64.  Would you deny them some Kart Racing goodness?

 

Oh, and progress is taking an existing idea and making it better.  That's what CTR did.  It's better than Mario Kart 64.

I would never deny someone some kart racing goodness.

However, you're bringing up puzzles and snowboarding and platforming, which leaves a lot of room open to interpretation and direction. Mario Kart is a game in the racing genre, it being the Mario interpretation of racing (power up items and weapons as something of a direct lineage from Mario games).

Interpretation is the key word here. Platforming is a very broad genre comprised from jumping from point A to point B, that's its most basic component and you can stack any number of things onto that plate. The same applies to snowboarding in that there's a lot of things you can do with since it's basically nothing but a sport.  Puzzle games have been around for thousands of years and the different takes on them are immense and insane.

What is the "kart racing" genre? What's open to interpretation? Looking back on Kart racing games I see Mario Kart and I see a lot of imposters. I've seen nothing added or mutated--just exact copies of Mario Kart with different characters and track themes.

Not sayin CTR is bad and I certainly wouldn't deny someone the chance to play it; it's just that when the dust settles there's Mario Kart and a long list of copycats.