So who thought Sony was crazy when they said the PS3 will sell 13m for 2009

[joeorc]

Twistedpixel said:

joeorc said:

Twistedpixel said:

Not d@mn good enough if they cut the price by a 3rd within 6 months of EU release and 12 months of US release. Oh and the PS3 was less than the PS2 launch price after 6 months not accounting for inflation. 430E vs 400. It was only significantly more expensive in America and perhaps Japan. Everywhere else I saw it had the PS3 at or cheaper than PS2 price at launch or soon after.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=PS&reg3=Europe&weeks=156

Thats with pretty similar prices so theres no argument that its got anything to do with launching too high. Its probably got more to do with the strong Wii sales and decent Xbox 360 sales as both systems got compelling content out the door much faster than Sony did with the PS3.

yes it does, inflation is like sying $500.00 is not $500.00 its the perception of that value, if the PS2 was released in the USA at that Price how would it have done even than?

i bet along the same line's as the PS3 has done. you can have great support for a system, but if the perception of the entry price is too high it would not matter!

example:

many people today who have been keeping pace with this , would have said the PS3 was too expensive @ $500.00+ but many went a head and paid $400.00 for the xbox360. it's like the old afddage it's not $20.00 it's $19.95.

many people complained about the Price of $500,00 for the PS3 BUT PAY $400.00 FOR SEAT'S TO A OSU home game that they get to go to one!

value perception has more to do with it than just price.

Why are you talking about dollars? Im saying that in Europe the price has never been a factor because for the most part the price has always been as high as it was. Since price is removed as a factor then you have to look at the good work of the competition for the reasons why the PS3 performed poorly relative to the PS2 in that region.

Within 6 months of the PS2s launch there were a lot of shortages, within 6 months of the PS3s launch the price was too high. That doesn't make much difference in terms of overall demand for that region as one roughly counters the other and then the PS3 price drops and availability is no longer constrained so therefore extremely comparable.

The world doesn't revolve around the U.S. and the price of the Playstation there. Read the graph again and see that the PS3 falls behind the PS2 and price was never a factor. The Wii stole the Playstation market and ditto for the Xbox 360 to a lesser extent. The PS3 got schooled because the other consoles got appealing content and experiences out faster and more often in the first couple of years. It had nothing to do with the PS3 being too expensive.

No it does not ,but on the same token the US is not europe just like Europe is not the US you keep pointing out that Europe is the ACID TEST. why would the United states not be an Acid test also? it's all subjective.

And once again it's the percieved Value of the product @ Price I am not saying the percieved value had nothing to do with it vs' other system's out there, I am saying on a region by region basis PRICE had a big detriment to the sell of the system.

 as an example:

singapore of $799.00 for the PS3 when it was first released.