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Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
I'm a little bit unhappy about Obama's approach to Afghanistan so far. He has made little or no progress in achieving his original aims and objectives. What these military leaders have proposed is more or less a compromise to eventually set up a stable government and leave, a stepping stone to his aim, but Obama has rejected it. Then why does he have these people around? They are the experts.

I hope he starts an open dialog towards a compromise with an aim to end the war within his tenure.

Do we really want any Stable government in there though? 

I'm not sure if your aware....

but Karazi rigged the elections so he would be reelected.

He may be setting himself up as dictator.  Obama understandably doesn't want to send a bunch of extra troops to help out and train an army that may be led by the next dictator of Afghanistan.  Such a move would only end up badly for us long term.  Removing one dictator to install another?  What would Afghanistan see as our legacy to them? 

Not to mention Karazi is pretty incompetant.  The minute we left Afghanistan would probably fall apart like a house of cards.

Karazi is a crook, incompetant leader and likely a would be dictator.

Obama doesn't need to put more troops in.  He has to threaten to pull them out.

So that Karazi will straighten up.

But the compromise is threatening to pull troops out in a way. Even though you send a few thousand more in, only half of your troops will ever actually be active, effectively reducing the amount that are serving. It is pulling them out, more or less. It's like pulling them out of the war, but not letting them leave the battlefield. It is at the very least a stepping stone to reduce the number of troops, and then eventually leave.

As for the government, I know Karazi has rigged elections and is an incompetent buffoon, I think resolving that is what I meant by installing a stable government.

Well it's half activly fighting, half holding and training.

The main "threat" of leaving is to make Karazi feel unsafe.

As long as we'd have troops training, he'd have areas he'd be safe no matter what happened... and if we're training he may get enough troops to where he does feel safe.

By stalling, Obama comes off as aloof, Karazi doesn't know what's going to happen.  Republicans are hammering him for not doing anything... some even call for withdrawl.   While liberals on the other aisle also call for withdrawl... while American News networks talk about how without Karazi backign down, we may as well pull out.

Basically, this is an info ploy.  It makes him scared... Obama shows he won't put in more troops and may even stop funding... and may even pull out.  In which case Karazi and his Warlords are doomed.

 

You know what Kasz, you're right. I agree, withdrawal is the best action.

I still think Obama should take action. With Afghanistan, Obama has broken a lot of the promises he made when campaigning and it is making him look bad.