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So now you're trying to backpedal? The only possible way anybody could take the obviously biased and extremely negative statements you've been making this entire thread is as "trolling" or "Nintendo-hating". Also "No one is saying the Wii needs a savior". You yourself said that the Wii needs a savior. Please, try paying even the remotest amount of attention to what's actually going on before you start making claims. And I think it's hilarious how you completely contradicted yourself.

W29 - "Nintendo is in trouble."

DMeisterJ - "Everyone has been heralding SMG as the Wii's savior for sales and blah, blah, blah, but the truth is it wasn't. "

DMeisterJ - "The wii does need a savior, it's falling, and fast in Japan. "

DMeisterJ - "So it does need a savior before it sells below the PS3."


You are trolling. Stop.

@this thread

(1) Japan is a handheld and casual market at the present moment in time. Console hardcore sales are going to be difficult to see doing well right off the bat, period. Give SMG a few months' time to pick up, and I guarantee it will. I also guarantee Ratchet and Clank will do far better in Japan, but that's a different story.

(2) Japan is a very minor-sized market compared to NA/EU. Remember, out of the 115M+ PS2s that have sold, only about 22M sold in Japan. About twice that has sold in America and Europe, respectively. Given that consideration and the fact that NA/EU both are much more hardcore- and console-oriented, SMG will flourish once it launches in each region. Japan does tend to decide who wins the console wars, which is why...

(3) Frankly, it doesn't matter for Nintendo how well the Wii does in relation to the PS3 for the rest of this generation. It already has more than a 3-to-1 lead over the PS3 after a year. The PS3 would have to climb to an average sales of 50k+ every single week in order to even have a chance at beating out the Wii at this point. Is that going to happen? Not a chance. This generation is already decided in Japan. America? Not certain yet. Europe? I haven't a clue. But Japan? Leading time is over for Sony, and we all know Microsoft isn't closing the gap any time soon.

(4) Have you guys even paid attention to launch sales for games in America? Ace Combat 6 and Ratchet and Clank, both selling to hardcore gamers in the country that contains the most "hardcore gamers", and the country with the largest market... sold barely 200K combined in their launch week. So, in the vastly more difficult (and smaller) market, you call 250k a flop? Get out of here. The Orange Box didn't even sell much better, for crying out loud! Heavenly Sword flopped, LAIR really flopped, Metroid Prime 3 barely sold more in America. If 250k+ in Japan is a flop, then anything below 500k in America is a titanic failure. What? Only three games have done better than 500k in launch week in America this entire year? Madden '08, Guitar Hero III, and Halo 3? Goodness, goodness. And I could've sworn people were saying this was the year for gaming.