Larad said:
Doctors can be bought...If they couldn't, he wouldn't have had a stash of 100 grand worth of drugs in his home and wouldn't have died as he haa. Also, I guess you believe that he has had only had two plastic surgeries right? Two on his nose...Oh wait, but then in the late 80's he had already admitted to 2 plastic surgeries, one on his nose and one for a cleft on his chain...Bbbut...That means he has already had at least 3 by the time he admitted 2 in the Bashir documentary, by his own admission. Let's not even go into the plastic surgeon estimates of 60-70 (since you trust the word of doctors so much) or better yet let's play blind and believe that he has not tried to change his appearence more radically than almost anyone else on earth (save the catwoman). Even IF he did have Vitaligo, his lies about his lack of plastic surgery has done very bad for his credibility which is why no one believes that he infact had Vitaligo. He has gone to extremes to change his appearance, lie about the fact, so it really wouldn't be out of "character" for him to have bleeched his skin also in the pursuit of changing his looks. He cannot blame anybody but himself for the fact that no one believes his Vitaligo story or anything else coming from his mouth for that matter. For the record I'm 50-50 on whether his Vitaligo is real or not, but if it weren't for his blatant and stupidly obvious lies about a lack of plastic surgery than I wouldn't have doubts about his "condition". |
You are pathetic, you're saying that MJ "bought" the POLICE doctor? You know, those police who were investigating the BS abuse allegations under the orders of the infamous D.A. Tom Sneddon. (This was during the 1993 case, not the 2003 one although I'm sure he was examined again then.) I suppose he also "bought" all the people with vitiligo who have said they can tell he has it along with loads of doctors around the world who treat vitiligo and vitiligo organisations? Not to mention all the photographic proof that he has it. Maybe you think vitiligo actually doesn't exist and he went around the world "bleaching" peoples skin to make it look like other people have it too? LMAO! By the way, explain to me exactly how MJ could have made about 90%+ of his skin white? Doctors (that have nothing to do with MJ) have said it's impossible. You talk about "drugs", once again just spouting what the media says. Yes, medication can technically be called drugs but they were medication. As well as vitiligo MJ also had lupus since at least the Thriller era and at times depression, anxiety (is that surprising?), insomnia and dancer's feet. He also injured his back during the trial which caused him problems since as well as breaking his leg (and re-injuring the previous back injury) rehearsing last year. (Remember the pics of him in the wheelchair when the media claimed he was "dying"?) And lets not forget the second and third degree burns to his scalp and face that he suffered after the Pepsi advert accident. He NEEDED painkillers for the lupus alone as well as anti-depressants and anxiety medication at times. Yes, sometimes he became addicted to them but not as much as the media are trying to portray plus people close to him say he was being unknowingly over-medicated at times. Also he didn't die of those, he died of a fatal dose of propofol, an anasthetic (that you've probably had yourself if you've had an operation where they put you to sleep) he was using to sleep because of very bad insomnia. Of course it was a bad idea to use propofol to sleep, especially outside of a hospital but he was desperate to sleep and Dr. Murray shouldn't have administered it in the first place and should have taken him to the hospital for other treatment instead. Also the autopsy said that ALL MJ had in his system was what Dr. Murray gave him THAT NIGHT, other than the propofol was a number of sedatives that he claimed he was giving MJ to "wean" him off the propofol but when the first one didn't work he shouldn't have given him a load of others, he should have either just gone straight to the propofol (although he shouldn't have done that either as I said) and done it properly or taken him to hospital. There were NO other "drugs" in MJ's system plus when a nurse was treating MJ for insomnia using natural remedies from January until Easter (I think Easter was the last time she treated him) she said all his blood tests showed were low blood sugar. Anyway, going back to medication, haven't you ever had to have any? Don't you know people on medication? Are they "drug addicts"? I have to take anti-depressants and painkillers too due to a condition I've had for over a decade called M.E., am I a "junkie"? (I've never touched illegal drugs in my life and never would. I'm in my 30s by the way.) In fact many of the symptoms of M.E. are like many of the symptoms of lupus so I might know some of what he was going through. Although if he had those symptoms as bad as I do (my muscles ache, I'm nearly always weak, tired and exausted to the point that I'm housebound most of the time and can only get out about once or twice a month now, sometimes not for a few months!) then it's a miracle he managed to perform at all! I'm guessing he couldn't have had it quite as bad as that though, there's no way he could surely? Not surprising he took painkillers though is it? Just imagine being the greatest entertainer in the world and having a condition like that, he must have often needed treatment just to be able to perform and must have been in a lot of pain.
OK, now about his surgeries (yeah, that link you posted that among other things compared MJ to Mr. Potato Head and The Creature From The Black Lagoon is really objective), you're actually right he did have a cleft put in his chin and even admitted to it in the past so I don't know why he didn't in the Bashir documentary. Maybe he just got confused because he was sick of all the questions or something. 1 mistake or even a purposeful lie does not make him a "notorious liar" though. As for his nose, I originally got confused too. I thought maybe he didn't count when he broke his nose so that was a "freebie" but even then his nose seems to have changed more than 3 times overall. I thought maybe it was because often got very thin and that made the nose smaller but it didn't sound plausible as it wasn't like he was fat before. So I thought it was very likely he had more surgeries but didn't want to admit it. No big deal except that his nose looked awful and I didn't understand why he would want it like that. Well after his death the mystery has been solved and the doctor that performed his "nose jobs" has revealed that he really did only have 2 "nose jobs" (up until just before his death, I'll explain in a sec) and that the further deterioration of his nose was a result of septal perforation from lupus where the cartilage collapses and affects both sides of the nose and is treated with cortecorsoids which further thins the surrounding skin. (This only happens to some lupus sufferers though, not all.) MJ was having his nose rebuilt before he died though, that's why it looks bigger and better in This Is It. (Unfortunately he was REALLY thin though, the thinnest he's ever been I think, so his gauntness took focus away from his better looking nose but just look at it again in pics or the trailer.) Here are some examples of lupus effecting noses (it can also effect other parts like mouths and ears etc) going from relatively minor to extreme. (Warning, those who are squeamish probably won't like these pics so I'll just post links to them.):
http://api.ning.com/files/E5qfhx3ltFok*taFdKiyohFnnnAE3-AfMitN3xSRmpyFx0SSoTFqa2Zsmg3gAY96uhYXQBqsAR9tf1MGvm3h0PHAN6N4PMJA/DISCOIDLUPUSERYTHEMATOSES.jpg
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD016/550px/img0004.jpg
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD021/550px/img0097.jpg
I do actually believe that he didn't have all the surgery people say he did because not only does turning white (if you're black, obviously) and changing your nose make you appear a lot different. See these pics of Nicole Kidman with a fake nose for a movie:
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_The_Hours/TH_Nicole_Kidman_031.jpg
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_The_Hours/TH_Nicole_Kidman_004.jpg
http://images.2dayfm.com.au/2008/07/16/38819/600x400-ENT-NicoleKidman-600x400.jpg
Also there's Jennifer Grey who famously became unrecognisble to casting directors after having a simple nose job causing her career to flop!:
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/10/30/nose_job_ruined_dirty_dancing_star_s_car
(It says in that article "nose job from hell" but it was actually a fine nose job, she just looked so different after it.)
But also changing hairstyles and especially weight changing made his face change a bit. People say he had his cheeks and jaw done (not counting the chin cleft) but it's simply becoming gaunt that brings these features out even more. MJ has always had big and high cheekbones and you can see his prominent jaw too in old pics if he happened to be particularly thin at the time of the photos/videos:
http://image.take40.com/342x456/michael_jackson_young_342x456_1979_wenn2046917.jpg
http://www.vasiliska.com/uploads/posts/2009-07/1247211703_mikk25.jpg
If you want more proof of it just watch Living With Michael Jackson again, the footage is chronological and you can see at the start MJ was very thin and his cheeks and jaw were very prominent but at the end of the documentary he wasn't quite as thin so wasn't quite as "boney" looking. (And watch the way the skin and muscle move around MJ's face, especially at the start, then look at celebrities with known plastic surgery beyond nose jobs and you'll see that their skin and muscle just doesn't move like that, it's very fixed and not very flexible.) Also MJ wore A HELL OF A LOT of make up after getting vitiligo. His face wasn't actually totally white all over, it had brown patches and uneven skin tone that he had to cover with make up and he had to use special make-up to cover all over that blocked the sun as he was extremely sensitive to it due the vitiligo. (Hence the umbrellas, masks and hats.) Plus of course the fact that he was almost 51 when he died. A 50 year old isn't going to look exactly like he did when he was 20 (let alone 11) is he? Lol! Check out this footage of him visiting the U.S. military in japan from 2007 where he look a lot stronger and healthier than in other photos and videos recently and a lot more like his old (as in young) self:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYPyxsSH0Y
Finally it's well know that the media purposely use the worst photos and videos (poses, angles and lighting) possible when showing MJ and have even been known to doctor photos to make him look worse. Aphrodite Jones confirmed that there is in fact an anti-MJ policy in the media and that they don't want positive information about him. I'm not sure if this is the interview where she talks about the media's anti-MJ policy but it's interesting anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU
I just want to open people's eyes to the truth since the media continue to smear MJ even after he died which is just disgusting.
