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fkusumot said:
The_vagabond7 said:
jeese, how ridiculous. People expect American like democracy to be implemented to the tee in every aspect of their life.

You know what? My house is not a democracy. If you come into my house I can tell you to leave for whatever the hell reason I want. You do not have the freedom to do whatever you want in my house, and I can make up whatever stupid rules I want. If you don't like it, then you can leave my house. That is not ridiculous, that is not absurd, that's plain and simple and I would extend the same respect to your house, and you would expect it without question. If you came into my house and told me my rules are stupid, or wanted to debate the validity and consistency of my rules, or the justice of said rules I could care less. My house is not a democracy. My house, I pay to be here, I put work into my house, you have no right to come into my house and tell me how to do things. If you want to make a suggestion, pay some me damn taxes and maybe I'll consider it.

This is ioi's house. If you don't like what he's doing, no one forces you to be here. Hell, just check the numbers and leave if you want. You can enjoy this site without ever having to talk to a mod, or put yourself into a position to be judged by them. You want a better community, go find one or create one yourself but just bitching here doesn't fix anything. You think you have a right to complain here? When was the last time you were forced to pay ioi something to be here?

The house argument is a little bit of a straw man. With the proper badge a person can come into your house, seize your property, put you in jail and hold you there without bail and without providing you legal counsel. That's just in America, not sure about other parts of the world.We're talking about legal authority here, right?

No one is forced to pay ioi anything to be here. True. You do have to spend time to be here. As you get older you'll find that it becomes more important to invest wisely.

To use your reasoning about "a better community", what does your "bitching" here accomplish? Should anybody be influenced by what you have to say? Do you have a right to say it?

 

 Those are poor counters to my supposed straw man. Now this is just turning into a debate for the hell of debate, so I'll make this my last post in this thread.

 

A police officer can indeed come into my house and do what he wants, he has legal authority to do that. But nobody here is the equivalent of internet police. Nobody here can force ioi's hand. That argument is just silly.

Time is money, but that's also a contrived arguement. By that notion I can demand anything of anyone that I spend time with. I could make the choice to go spend my time with some friends, but I would be a huge jackass to show up and tell them that their conversation is stupid, they had better do something better because they are wasting the investment of my time that I have spent on them. If I spent my time at somebody's house and demanded that they make it worth my while I would be kicked out. Now I do have the option of spending my time in some other way without making demands of others.

I am not bitching at the rules saying they are unjust and making demands that they should be changed. So yes as long as ioi or the head mod says that I have the right to say it, I do.



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