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The_vagabond7 said:
And if the community doesn't like it they can leave. It can be ioi's loss if they do, but he's not obligated to listen to them.

That's why the community is able to make suggestions, but not demands. ioi is in no way obligated to obey or explain himself to anyone here. That's why accusations and demands for answers and never letting it go so incredibly dumb. If you want to make a suggestion to make it better, great. But demanding justice, and ranting about it, arguing with anyone who will listen, dumb.


OK, from what I understand you are saying, essentially, "Either obey ioi without question or GTFO his site, either way you don't get to complain."

That is stupid.  If something is contrary to the way we want it, instead of just walking away from the community we still (mostly) enjoy contributing to and have devoted lots of time to, or suffering in silence and sowing the seeds of hatred in our hearts, I think it's very appropriate to air our concerns.  And we also have the right to expect ioi to hear those concerns. 

He is in no way obligated to do what we say should be done, but he would be wise not to just ignore anyone with a legitimate complaint -- and ioi has demonstrated many times that he is willing and even eager to take input from the community.  (So I guess ioi disagrees with you too.) 

Part of why I was upset by what happened to Crucial was that, aside from his first sentence being an insult, he was airing a concern about what he saw as inappropriate suppression of criticism of the mods.  I think he was wrong -- that leo-j's comment should have gotten him briefly banned, as it did -- but I was shocked that Crucial was also banned, and for a much longer period.  It made me afraid that any criticism could be punished by banning if a mod happened to feel that way.  



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