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macross said:
intro94 said:
macross said:
Arius Dion said:
Wow. Time warp, to 2007. And to think I was contemplating writing a thread on how Wii hate is subsiding.

It's not about Wii hate, it's about the whole problem on Nintendo Console on Hardcore gaming. 3rd parties are just fine for developing their creative and casual trends on Wii but not hardcore titles. Look at the 3rd parties on both DS and Wii, they are just miserable and pathetic except casual titlez. Even the most hardcore and best selling title like GTA can't save Nintendo platform, Nintendo is just fine with Game Party(bottom 10 metacritic game) and Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2009( http://www.amazon.com/Jillian-Michaels-Fitness-Ultimatum-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B001DDBBSS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1245444150&sr=1-1 ).

the problem is that for you to justify your statments you cant put them directly.

gta (which is a casual game btw ) and very good one.Sold already over 500k units.Its good,its really good.

. So for you to make sense you have to ADD comments like> Given the Ds playerbase, given the name of the brand and so forth.That doesnt matters.The game sold well and it printed money.Thats all that matters. That provess you can you can sell on the console.That proofs you can make money. COD on the DS also proved that.And thats why this is irrelevant to say it should sell like GTA4.No, because its not the heavily advertised huge budget game.Its a good portable game and has such sales, which are great noticing how many times cheaper it was to produce.

 

Given something like GTA which could sold more than 3-4 mil on its first day, you called that good on the currently second highest platformin the history(more than 100 mil user)? It can't even reach 1 mil after 3 months and maybe even by the end of the year.

Of course.I call it great. 500k is good.No matter what, theres no way to make that a bad number.Even if there were 200 mil ds, that doest makes 500k bad.Is only small if you say "Compared to". But you dont do that,certainly not game makers!Games are supposed to make profit proportional to their costs.Not to the playerbase of the console!The ds market is very different too. You cant compare markets like that.

360 market had fewer games and most of its gamers where focused on the upcoming game for months.360 users also tend to buy and forget.

I will be direct with you with a hard fact. MK for wii or ds didnt sell as much as GTA.I mean GTA sold 3 million in the first week. MKs soand ld 200k in the first week.

Today both mario karts have sold almost twice than GTA.So what do you say about that? Understand ,different markets!

DS owners werent waiting anxiously for the release of GTA, they didnt wait to for 2 years to get it to the store anxiously.No.They will buy GTA when they can even if its in a year from now.

And btw ,posting a PSP list with 1st party and 2nd party games...isnt gonna help your case.It doesnt helps the case that the FF games in total for DS have outsold the psp ones, that DQ games have also sold over a million, that the ds gets more third party support and will probably keep getting it, because you DONT have to sell a million to break even with portable games.Plenty of core third party games get sequels for DS,and thats what matters in the end. Jak and dexter sold 3 milllion ,1st party?woopeedoo, NSBM for ds sold like 20 million.

Just because third party casual games have sold well, doesnt ERASE the million sellers of core 3rd party games. DS market is so huge that it can afford to do that.