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Cueil said:
saicho said:
Cueil said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
How are you going to walk around in a FPS or TPS or 3rd person adventure melee game with these 3 control methods? Only one of these controllers lets you use a joystick at the same time, which is the industry standard control for movement.


I think you're forgetting that both of these technologies have some time till their release.  I also think that many of you feel that Natal has more limiting factors than it actually does.  Who says that you can't use your controller with Natal?  Who says Microsoft wont create a break away controller and comes apart into separate pieces... same with Sony.  They could map the DS3 onto those wands.  What I think Natal has some really big potential in is what Wii dominates in right now... Fitness.  As for none controller movements in a FPS... how about moving your shoulders as if you were walking with a real gun or lifting up your feet?  You could swing your arms... the bigger problem would be turning.  I think we'll much better tech when these two products finally launch.

That's the delima with Natal. As far as I can tell, the whole presentation of Natal is promoting that you don't need any controllers and it gives you total freedom as well as the ease for anyone to play. If MS were to offer a controller to use with Natal, it would totally defeat the whole purpose of project Natal and look like a PSEye + wand knockoff.

I don't think it would defeat the purpose at all.  You don't need to use Natal for everything if you don't want to.  Let's say they put the full motion on your face.  So instead of tracking your body it's only tracking where your head moves so you have a much more interactive FP game.  Also you could augment other games with Natal.  Just because you can track the whole body doesn't mean that you want to.  You have to think that  games like Splinter Cell and Grand Theft Auto just wouldn't need the camera.  You could probalby get the game working just fine with it, but I imagine that using the camera for simple gestures would work out best and free up bottons for the game.  If this works as well with Driving games as I hear it may remove the controller completely, but some games just wont ... I don't want to say work well... because I'm sure they would, but the time investment may not make it worth the effort... something like that.  Personally if they don't pack this into Arcade systems I just don't see it catching on... same with Sony's motion controllers.

With that, we go back to square one of the arugment - Natal does not apply to all games especially by itself. That's where nunchuck and Wiimote combination excels. It may not be the best motion controller comparing to other company's offering. It can be used in all games.



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