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Wow, didnt see this one coming from FishyJoe.

And for those interested in the truth and not hatred for all things sony.......there is no proof that it is BD+ causing these issues and it is an isolated issue with 3 players.....and for those who care, the CE's have admitted they need firmware, thus any intelligent person should understand that if only select hardware experiences problems it is not a BD+ issue....and it has a better chance to be a java issue than BD+ according to insiders and those who know what theyre talking about.

So, no one knows if it is due to BD+ or not, and the manufacturers have announed firmware is on the way to correct it.....it is not a BD+ issue at this point.